I'm watching Tim's vids about "thots" which I didn't even know existed before today

Can someone explain to me why men pay for something so silly?

I'm mystified why this is even a thing O_o

one reason

penis

Huh?

Isn't there like porn and stuff on the 'net?

Why pay for "thots"?

there's probably a loneliness element as well

they want the interaction

even if it is shallow

Huh

So it sounds like these men are blaming these women for the fact that the men are willingly throwing money at them?

actually, now that I think about it, it's quite inline with evolutionary biology

I believe some primate males will give gifts in exchange for sex

perhaps this is just a sad modern representation of that method

humans are animals, first and foremost

I'm seeing mention of unfairness but it's men who are acting on their impulses. It's not the woman's fault that the man wants such a shallow interaction and is willing to pay for it. This really sounds like the accusation that women change after sex and call it rape because they regret it. How is this different? Men regretting it after they spend the money and then calling it abusive?

I don't think the people who are giving the "thots" money are the ones complaining

other people see this, think it's a lop-sided agreement or abusive, and blame the women

Why do people not involved in such transactions even care?

sympathy

they feel bad for the men

And how does driving women who are providing a service men are willing to pay for help those men?

it doesn't

Hmm'kay

I'm just trying to get my head around this one.

The complaints are coming from....let me see if i can find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUptM7U0RRY

This, not chicks selling sex. afaik

think of it more like a drug addiction; like a dealer (the thot) and the addict (the payee)

that's more or less how the "anti-thots" see it

Hmm

But I still don't get why men would have a demand for this

And how that demand is women's fault

would you blame the dealer selling crack to kids?

Well, there are many men on the internet.
The group upset over it isn't necessarily the group that is funding it.
The upset group can't get angry at the group that is funding it.
They are nameless, faceless, its the women who are publicly available.

harsh analogy, I know

though, on twitch I think it's safe to assume a fair bit of young boys just starting puberty find their way to some female streamers painting their nude bodies

Oh my

I just watched the link

So much anger 😦

despite the chill background music

I'll be honest, as a woman I can see why women would never want to be close to that man

Watching that was frightening.

If that is representative of the men lamenting no women being available, they need to consult their mirror

he's probably one of those mgtow fags

that's not really what this is about

a lot of these men retreat into gaming and gaming communities and are more or less just fine where they are, as long as they stay away from incel communites. a lot of these people know they are rejects and live with it.

as far as twitch goes, it's a gaming platform, and hence gets a lot of men who retreat into gaming. however, in walks girls doing what is essentially lite camgirling, breaking all the rules and twitch looks the other way, all while banning men for even a nip slip or a even slightly erotic game.

these men are having their safe haven invaded by the very things they wanted to escape. they blame the women, but really it's the platform (twitch) that is the problem.

I can't tell if you're just still ignorant of these guys plight or just that apathetic, Cat.

Ignorant

At least I think so

Naïve might be better term

I'm 48 years old so this is quite an education

I grew up around boys who shoplifted porn magazines and tried to hack the playboy channel on our cable box back in the 80's

We were the early adopters on the block

I found them amusing but harmless. I avoided their stuff because all I could feel when looking at the images was envy.

But i was glad they seemed happy.

I never sensed this level of hate, though. Or blaming the women or the magazines for providing the service. Later when they bought their own T&A magazines they didn't blame the magazines for making money off them. They were grateful the magazines provided a service they found valuable.

yeah that is not at all a good parallel for the issue

I dislike the thots compared to actual sex workers because what they do isn't work, I am not saying they weren't legally given the money they received, just that they are bad people

I won't disagree

But I'm still flummoxed over why the men would give money for something freely available on the internet. There's porn everywhere. Rule 34.

It is what I would consider predatory behavior on their part. Their prey being sexually desperate men.

They give it away because they sadly are invested in *them*

Once a girl asks for money, you'd think that would be a red flag?

It becomes perversely personal to directly pay for it.

Oh

Given nudes > paid for nudes tho

So there is dishonestly involved. Like "if you give me money maybe we can get together" or something like that?

Sadly it isn't even that hopeful. More like in the case of premium snapchats you are directly receiving content personally.

No it hinges on psychological aspects

I know I may seem thick as a brick but i really am clueless and trying to understand

I still think the dealer/addict analogy works

at least to an extent

wait

Yeah, not a perfect analogy, but comparable in many ways.

you could make the same argument about anything.
like timecast

I would almost call it a reverse pimp and ho relationship.

and the thot audit is the war on drugs

tim makes his videos available for free, yet you pay for it.

Nobody is following Tim because boners. No offense, Tim

says you

timmy boners are the *only* reason why i watch

I grew up with a penis and testosterone and never in a million years would it have occurred to me to do this. But I wasn't normal. Like I said, seeing women in intimate photos just made me envious. It leaves me having to try and piece together what a "normal" man would do/feel.

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The world is insane. I fit right in.

beat off to it, is the answer to that

But can't you beat off to simple porn?

I can only get aroused by men in beanies

lol

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What am I supposed to understand from you quoting me, @taekahn?

it is context for my previous comment

I am twenty, moderately attractive and socially adept yet I have never dated or even pursued dating. I am not asexual either, it can be better described as a fear of dependency and attachment on others.

i don't always do things in the proper order. Time is more flexible than gender in my world.

fair enough

It also doesn't help that I am mistrustful of dating in a college environment.

For all I know I could date a seemingly normal woman only to do something wrong or break it off and be accused of rape.

Makes sense. I am counseling my son to be careful.

women are scary

*crazy

It's a different world that I grew up in.

I know for the most part it is paranoia, but even a bit of evidence makes an already unwilling me even more hesitant.

Its simple. Just be the first to accuse

I can't lie

therefore I am at a severe disadvantage

Learn to deviously tell the truth

Date for a while before letting sex happen. Lay groundwork.

Not even interested in sex

That's fine

Or you could go in the complete opposite direction and just become an actual rapist.

hmmm

that way the accusations aren't false.

>.<

Mad reasoning, but reasoning nonetheless

Anyway, thanks for explaining stuff to me.

Count Dankula has an enjoyable analysis of THOTS and Incels, although I doubt anything he says will be any more revelatory.

Aydin did a video a while back about how people build faux personal connections to ecelebs

Wouldn't be surprised if that helped uphold the thottery

@Dvir my girlfriend says that women are more abusive than men, whats say you boys should i trust the femoid

it tends to be a closer split than people suggest

and domestic violence tends to be mutually perpetuated

Yeah, if one partner is abusive there is a good change the other one is too.

I think the stats say women are more likely to strike their partners. It's just that they tend to suck at it so nothing comes of it.

Women are more likely to use weapons

I've had women strike me before. It's just annoying.

have you had a woman attack you with a knife? Because there are more than a few cases like that
Or abuse the kids

No. Just punching me.

Let's just say that far fewer results of female-on-male abuse reach the emergency department than male-on-female. Beyond that, I honestly can't say except through personal experience which is an absence of violence by either.

There was a study either here or in the states that actually found the highest DV/IPV rates in lesbian couples. My sister had a small debate with her teacher about it and then brought in the stats

I recall seeing that article somewhere

"Would you violently defend your lesbian sister from her abusive partner if no other option was available?" :^)

"Only a sick misogynist would answer positively! Who else would want to see two women get beaten?"

Then again, lesbian couples have some of the highest rates of domestic abuse.

I was hit once by my ex. Sort of by accident (hard to explain). Given a nose bleed. It hurt, but I was also laughing after the shock of it. I'd argue a palm thrust to the nose hurts no matter how it's supplied.

@Phalynx that was my point

I was ina relationship where my ex got hit by all her exes

I quickly found out why

some women do it to themself and before this experiance I never knew what that meant

I left her btw didnt hit her in case you are wondering

but I learned an important lesson

alot of women are victims SOME ARE NOT

you broke the pattern, now no one else can say she was hit by all her exes

All I can think of is bill burr

Crimea, Kerch, and the strait of Kerch are Russia's. Change my mind.

You may wanna fix that sentence m8

I assume you meant are. State your case

They are now. I don't think anyone can argue that. The fact Crimea was stolen despite treaties making it illegal is another matter.

what happened?

The Crimean peninsula was annexed from Ukraine by Russia in spring of 2014. Recently, three Ukrainian Navy vessels attempted to cross the strait of Kerch from the Azov sea to the Black sea without permission from Russia so Russia captured the ships.

Supposedly about 18 more Ukrainian vessels are going to try to move into the sea of Azov. Amidst this, Ukr Pres Petr Poroshenko's gov is instituting martial law, but totally not gonna postpone elections.

Didn't Crimea hold a referendum on leaving to rejoin Russia?

I believe there was one to have autonomy from Ukraine, then a separate one to join the federation.

Yeah, it was my understanding that the people just straight up hated Ukraine.

side note: Natalya Poklonskaya, AG of... Crimean government..(?) had a lot of wehraboo-type fanboys. Tons of anime art about her.

Oh, her.

/pol/s russian waifu.

It's great stuff.

Crimea had been Ukrainian historically and in the 50's Russia yielded Crimea to Ukraine. After the dissolution of the USSR, Russia signed a treaty guaranteeing the borders of Ukraine in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nukes the had inherited from the USSR. That turned out well...

You sure you don't mean it was Russia's historically?

Far in history it was Ukraine's. Then Russia got it. Then Russia gave it back. Then Russia guaranteed Ukraine's borders. Then Russia took it anyway.

The key is that they guaranteed Ukraine's borders in exchange for Ukraine handing over the nukes.

Then reneged

That's what had so many people steamed. That and the loss of Crimea allowed Ukraine to be strangled as they are being now.

Just start WWII 2:Electric Boogaloo already

Gib Ukraine nuk

PlayStation vs Xbox

PC Master Race.

Really then why all my PC friends buying a Xbox

ITT: Hitler was right about commies

Wtf, I didn;t think PS V XBox was a real argument anymore

Pc

I thought PS4 smashed Xbox

PC

Not really if you think about it

PS4 has all the exclusives

Actually, if you think about it

PS wants censorship no cross play

Ps4 and xbone doesnt hold a plate to PC

Actually if you think about it we already know that Codes, we aren't discussing PC

Console debate

Consoles are shit

Obviously

PC is always better

Why debate what's 2nd or 3rd place

That's not what we're talking about

Ok no one is asking that I want to debate the console market

Nintendo switch. obviously

First is all that matters

Switch is better than those anyway

Because there's exclusivity BS that makes consoles relevant unfortunately

I'll never get to play the new God of War

Not for the Xbox

Get a pc

Xbox don't need bs exclusives

Eventually you will be able to emulate it

Dude that will take literally 15 years

That's faster than xone will get it

The PS3 emulator is still just a skeleton

Yeah you want to know where console out shines pc

It just works

You don't have to screw with it

Except when it doesn't

K that's a dumb argument.

You don't have to anything in it

I'm trying to defend our console conversation mac daddy, don't say shit like that

Just plug in and play

No it's true

Yeah, PC is pretty plug in and play too

Have my friends sold their pcs cause of this

I mean, unless your some kind of enthusiast like me

No more tinkering worrying what might be wrong

But building a PC is like putting more expensive legos together

Any way back to the console debate @DrWittMDPhD

Actually no

That was the dumbest argument I have ever heard

I want some fuckin 50k piece lego sets of architecture

That sounds sick, but $50000000 sounds un-epic

Try to find an actually valid point, I could say the exact same thing about consoles, also, Sony or Microsoft can legally brick your system

I blocked u dude I'm not having this conversation rn you are one of those elistists I'm good o don't want to hear how good PC is I want to debate console

They cant legally brick your PC

@DrWittMDPhD u free to vc

Nigga what

I'd love to talk to you on this

VC is for homosexual communists

Yeah and lol

I love how a console peasant who thinks consoles are better, blocks people

All the stereotypes are so true

The only thing I think is worth considering with consoles is exclusives

Yeah I agree

The only games I have been interested in are PS4

That's why they don't want cross play

Or a open market

I kind of want to toss in Phone App Games and "Watch the world burn" as the saying goes.

Lol

Atleast they are better than console games

Cause you can play them on the go

God of War is a console game

I'd give my scrote to get that on PC

Rather than have shit consoles, inferior in all ways, stuck in your living room

PS for me used to be great but that is before ps3

Then just nose dived

Plus way less hackers on console

That's an upside?

Also RDR2 is a console game for probably the next 6-17 months. That's fuckin annoying.

See I want a open gaming market

But PS is the only ones who don't

Then consoles would be irrelevant

I mean they already are

Dude can u fuck off already

But they would be completely irrelevant

I was legitimately debating you

If the market was open, consoles would be even more irrelevant

No your being a elitist

Actually I am not

I've seen your type before

If you want to play on your console, go ahead