Every time I have a conversation about economics, I want to hit my head on the nearest wall. It's fine, though. A fool and his money are soon parted.

But in order to keep people from starving or dying on the streets a la the time before all these controls we'd need more government "welfare". If we let the market handle it, are we prepared to provide more food stamps, Medicaid, etc. to those who have to work for less than it costs to live?

I'm open to removing all the market controls you mention as long as we have an effective safety net to ensure we don't let our own people (citizens and legal residents) to die because the market won't either give them the ability to support themselves (able bodied) or they can't support themselves within it (disabled).

I was reading “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?” The cat just died and it makes me feel so sad I knew it was real the poor thing

And i know the owner will know its fake

I need to read more PKD

@Undead Mockingbird#8608 I hear you, m8.

Oh, wow, where'd he go?

Did he get yeeted?

I'm watching Tim's vids about "thots" which I didn't even know existed before today

Can someone explain to me why men pay for something so silly?

I'm mystified why this is even a thing O_o

one reason

penis

Huh?

Isn't there like porn and stuff on the 'net?

Why pay for "thots"?

there's probably a loneliness element as well

they want the interaction

even if it is shallow

Huh

So it sounds like these men are blaming these women for the fact that the men are willingly throwing money at them?

actually, now that I think about it, it's quite inline with evolutionary biology

I believe some primate males will give gifts in exchange for sex

perhaps this is just a sad modern representation of that method

humans are animals, first and foremost

I'm seeing mention of unfairness but it's men who are acting on their impulses. It's not the woman's fault that the man wants such a shallow interaction and is willing to pay for it. This really sounds like the accusation that women change after sex and call it rape because they regret it. How is this different? Men regretting it after they spend the money and then calling it abusive?

I don't think the people who are giving the "thots" money are the ones complaining

other people see this, think it's a lop-sided agreement or abusive, and blame the women

Why do people not involved in such transactions even care?

sympathy

they feel bad for the men

And how does driving women who are providing a service men are willing to pay for help those men?

it doesn't

Hmm'kay

I'm just trying to get my head around this one.

The complaints are coming from....let me see if i can find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUptM7U0RRY

This, not chicks selling sex. afaik

think of it more like a drug addiction; like a dealer (the thot) and the addict (the payee)

that's more or less how the "anti-thots" see it

Hmm

But I still don't get why men would have a demand for this

And how that demand is women's fault

would you blame the dealer selling crack to kids?

Well, there are many men on the internet.
The group upset over it isn't necessarily the group that is funding it.
The upset group can't get angry at the group that is funding it.
They are nameless, faceless, its the women who are publicly available.

harsh analogy, I know

though, on twitch I think it's safe to assume a fair bit of young boys just starting puberty find their way to some female streamers painting their nude bodies