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Arch is going insane
anyway, what does the word racist mean?
are you asking me or Granade?
im asking anyone
yes, i think
racist
หreษชsษชst/
noun
noun: racist; plural noun: racists
1.
a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
i beleive racial superiority covers the latter of that defintion but i agree with that definition. though webster has a different interpriation https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
so how is it racist to think that people joining your country need to conform to your values?
The context I used racist as was the prejudice bit
if racism is to show or feel discrimination or prejudice against people of other races (or lets expand that to ethnicitys to cover just a general difference for outsiders (though that could be consitered xenophobia too)) how is expecting other people living within your country regardless of where they come from to meet the standards of values that you want the people you live with to express?
Arch, you distinguish between americans on the basis of skin color. This is all I meant. I find it grose. Most folks I'm friends with that come from a mono-ethnical state find it grose. We have people of color here and there and we don't give a rat's ass about it. I don't know how to make my point any clearer
unfortunately we dont own that anymore
i don't think most people really give a rats ass about it in America
ironically, the left also calls that racist
"color-blind is racist"
you have quotas. The fact one can be viewed as a diversity hire is incredibly mean. That's all I'm saying.
it is
and its being lead by the faction who started the KKK
and yet there are no protests against it.
yeah, there are
they just get fired. Have you not heard about James Damore?
ofc I have. You don't have massive protests against it, that's my point
distinguishing people via skin color is an ancient practice every human culture who has existed practiced at one point. america did, europe did (moors, jews, gypsies), so on and so forth. perhaps your monoethnic country has gotten past that nosoul but here in the united states its no longer in anyones hands to control that. we have what you call black culture and mexican culture, and italian, chinese, japanese, etc, no longer because AMERICA wants to describe people as being seporate from americans. but because of an evolution of distinguishing between skin colors now skin color and ethnic background is the method in which americans seporate themselves from being american
do people in North Korea have massive protests against Kim?
rather extreme example and hyperbolic
well they are not really in the land of the free now are they Granade ๐
i mean, people are lazy. of course, rather than protest, we also have a habit of just building new things rather than destorying stuff
which is apparently the American idea of a protest.
idk why we have definitions for riot, we call any gathering of upset people a protest
america cant protest being racist, it would be racist because it would only be white people protesting it
we have patriot prayer and the proud boys
but you see how the racists shut them down
by racists
hence, my point
racism is inherent to any ethnicly diverse nation
you would solve it unless you program humans on a mass scale at a young age
but that would be racist because youd need to do it to all americans not just the white ones
idk, you called them american culture values, yet both sides basically agree the racist side is anti-american
not to mention the other orwellian problems of state forced child programming
i dont think they are cultural values i think they are cultural habits
the left say they hate America, and support open enemies of America, want America to not be a country by abolishing the border
Anyway, thank you all for engaging. Good night ^^
anytime! night!
though there may be something to this thing of eastern europeans being nicer to other races than we are. alt hypothosis did a video once talking about how groups of people who are mostly ethnicly homogenus tend to be less instinctively prejudice
i believe that is called being naive? lmao
yes essentually
i mean, if you encounter less cultures counter to you, you have less reason to be weary of it
much like animals from areas without humans don't have an instant run reaction to humans
negitive interactions with other ethnic groups are worse than no interactions at all. though obviously positive ones are best but in a society you cant expect that
there may also be a factor of people (especially collectivistic people) veiwing negitive interactions as an example of what a type of person can be like where a positive interaction as who a person is
because people look at negitive things that happen to them as something they need to prevent from happening while positive things are things people dont have an instinctive learning mechanism for
which is why you learn more from failure
(though not that you learn the right things from failure, your just more likely to remimber)
thus ultimatly on a national scale racism is very difficult to control though it may take many different forms (though systemic racism is bullshit)
doesent help that we basicly teach every non white person to be racist in the united states
@Beemann Good song. Think I'll fall asleep to Pulse in the CD player tonight.
american only social media websites, change my mind
No arguments here
I'm fine with you guys having a containment board, yeah
in january there will be 3 internets: the chinese internet, the european internet, and the free internet
>try to have debate with random lefty American
>they assume every country is culturally American.
>they try to tell me how well the country I live in works
Like I said, containment board
i mean, american culture has infested a very large portion of the world
Not as much as Americans would like to believe
>BLM Toronto
i mean, there are over 2000 mcdonalds in china
Business != culture
People like to assume your social issues have been exported. They haven't
Which is why you get commies complaining about Slavs having white privilege
i don't think they have either
but food is an important aspect of culture
american clothing is also found worldwide
I think better of America than to assume McDonalds is representative of its food :^)
But yeah I frequently find Burgerlanders telling me there are no issues with my healthcare system, that racism is a huge issue and I need to unpack the knapsack and shit
cheap, disgusting, and bad for you are the cornerstones of american food tbh
like, yeah we have better, but most of us are perfectly happy eating mcdonalds 3 times a week. personally i can't stand that shit
Yeah but like, the presence of businesses doesn't determine what fundamentally shapes a country
USA is full of pizzerias, you can buy Diesel clothes everywhere
USA doesn't hold Italian values
it is an indicator, especially if the business is one so culturally significant
Italian-Americans might but not the USA
Agreed, the Standard American Diet sucks.
with pizza places, we have americanized the hell out of pizza. there are almost no pizza places that try to sell themselves on "italian pizza"
Yes, but the point still stands it doesn't determine the values
and pizza chains from italy are also practically nonexistant
Sony and Nintendo have a huge presence in the UK, that doesn't mean we hold Japanese values
yeah, i'm not saying we imported our values around everywhere, but a large chunk of our culture we did
Yes, but the culture isn't the values
american food, movies, clothing, and music are all almost worldwide
yeah i never argued about values tho
Wild Western films are known worldwide but nobody holds the heritage of what Wild West means
>buy all of your tech from Asian countries
>you now have Asian culture
Oh sorry I must've misread
Yeah, I misread. Businesses being moved around doesn't mean culture follows, it's more to do with the international nature of the world and how America is revolutionary in communication
well beeman when we start wearing traditional chinese clothing every day and eating chow mein 4 times a week hmu
>america owns burgers, t-shirts
Ok
I think the point of things not transferring was summed up best by the Slavs having white privilege thing
i'd say jeans more than t-shirts, but t-shirts also to a lesser degree
Like, I've been told I have white privilege. I'm an Irishman in a city where Irish guys have been killed by gangs for being Irish
I don't have privilege because I'm white, yknow
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