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2018-01-19 18:59:52 UTC

And water filters. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-01-19 18:59:55 UTC

Black pidgeon did a mobile game lol

2018-01-19 19:00:05 UTC

So did JonTron.

2018-01-19 19:00:14 UTC

mobile games? ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-01-19 19:00:18 UTC

@JadenFrostwolf might be that shapiro is using all of them, but it sounds fake when he talks about them

2018-01-19 19:00:33 UTC

Well didnt think that people mind anyway

2018-01-19 19:00:40 UTC

its the same with all kind of talk show like sponsorships really, with ben.

2018-01-19 19:00:42 UTC

Yeah, he does, but meh. I try not to judge people's intent or try to read their minds.

2018-01-19 19:00:50 UTC

they are all written the same way so its clear its just another ad

2018-01-19 19:01:06 UTC

only the ads are being recorded live, rather than pre-recorded

2018-01-19 19:01:15 UTC

So with tim specifically

2018-01-19 19:01:20 UTC

Tim pool soundboard with microtransactions to unlock every phrase

2018-01-19 19:01:24 UTC

its just like any ad on tv with your favorite celeb really

2018-01-19 19:01:35 UTC

an entire page dedicated to every time he said "I used to work for vice"

2018-01-19 19:02:15 UTC

And "I'm mixed." <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-01-19 19:02:17 UTC

tim worked for vice? next you're telling me he is mixed race and wears beanies ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-01-19 19:02:18 UTC

tower defense where you refute accusations of being alt-right

2018-01-19 19:02:40 UTC

So people actually came forward to promo Mobile games? Well I guess its not uncommon in this day and age.

2018-01-19 19:02:56 UTC

The marketing budgets for some of them rival aaa companies.

2018-01-19 19:02:58 UTC

There are some mobile games that aren't money vacuums.

2018-01-19 19:03:19 UTC

They're just rare, and even more rarely are they actually good or interesting.

2018-01-19 19:03:28 UTC

the difference between mobile game and aaa game is getting smaller every day

2018-01-19 19:03:44 UTC

yea the vpn stuff has no script or anything

2018-01-19 19:03:53 UTC

particularly with Mr. "Games as a Service" Ea head.

2018-01-19 19:03:55 UTC

none of the proposed sponsors have any script other than teach people about it

2018-01-19 19:03:55 UTC

Actually, so then, how hard would it be to get a sponsor?

2018-01-19 19:04:12 UTC

Though I am assuming you got some.

2018-01-19 19:04:14 UTC

the other issue is that if I just did commercials for myself would I end up making more?

2018-01-19 19:04:27 UTC

theres something about getting a service that people are more into than dontaing to me

2018-01-19 19:04:49 UTC

the popular mobile games are 100% exploiting psycology, IIRC there was a Y combinator talk about how they attach triggers to anxiety to improve user engagement

2018-01-19 19:05:04 UTC

So, doing ads for products or services that you like vs ones that you think your audience would like?

2018-01-19 19:05:19 UTC

all games exploit psychology

2018-01-19 19:05:33 UTC

What is your perspective of you current audience tim? Just curious.

2018-01-19 19:05:46 UTC

in fact, when Destiny was coming out, the bragged about actually hiring a psychologist to make the game addicting

2018-01-19 19:05:52 UTC

I'd say just do whatever interests you. There seems to be at least *some* crossover between what you like and your audience likes.

2018-01-19 19:07:36 UTC

Besides hearthstone?

2018-01-19 19:07:40 UTC

what do you mean commercials for yourself? your patreon etc.?

2018-01-19 19:07:51 UTC

yea do a 30 second promo for my own donations instead

2018-01-19 19:09:35 UTC

you could try a hybrid approach, do one ad for yourself on one video, a paid ad for the next, see how things work. If you see enough increase from just doing an ad yourself, then you can cut the paid content. if not, then you can start putting in paid content in place of your own ad

2018-01-19 19:09:57 UTC

Is it a good idea to experient here though?

2018-01-19 19:10:20 UTC

hmm... depends of how it is integrated i guess... but i would combine it i guess...

2018-01-19 19:10:28 UTC

We are talking someine career here. And I have no clue about what the average timcast viewer is like

2018-01-19 19:11:33 UTC

It's best to keep it simple and easy, and not overcomplicate it with any kind of back-and-forth or trying anything fancy.

2018-01-19 19:11:51 UTC

i think the best place to promote your own donations would be after super engaging content like when you were talking about cars on fire in sweden

2018-01-19 19:12:02 UTC

though that's also when sponsors want their spots

2018-01-19 19:12:20 UTC

@GingaBomber i think tim will decide for himself and just wants input...?

2018-01-19 19:12:28 UTC

This aint some radioshow unfortunately

2018-01-19 19:13:02 UTC

Vids may be daily, but are too short for inbetweener commercials

2018-01-19 19:14:05 UTC

And cant be at the end, not everyone finishes the vids.

2018-01-19 19:14:17 UTC

sponsored ads seem to be fine as long as the company has absolutely nothing to do with the content, hard to make that line clear

2018-01-19 19:14:34 UTC

That avatar, hah

2018-01-19 19:14:49 UTC

I watched that video too. lol

2018-01-19 19:14:52 UTC

well, a "self ad" might work at the end...

2018-01-19 19:16:24 UTC

@Timcast start selling beanies and rapping about merch

2018-01-19 19:16:32 UTC

what could go wrong

2018-01-19 19:16:34 UTC

i'd buy a timcast beanie

2018-01-19 19:16:40 UTC

but in general the idea of doing sponsored videos on sundays is not wrong, i would only be concerned about the implementation of it... (self-ads would not bring in "outside money")

2018-01-19 19:16:55 UTC

Sell enough and even the antifa will have trouble finding him

2018-01-19 19:17:21 UTC

I would buy one of those beanies. It fits my style already.

2018-01-19 19:17:30 UTC

they'd just attack everyone wearing a beanie

2018-01-19 19:17:44 UTC

Well then, sponsored vids weekly? Make the vid something unusual and something to look forward to?

2018-01-19 19:17:52 UTC

We could all show up at events so Tim can blend in. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

2018-01-19 19:17:56 UTC

Not that I dont look forward to the dailyS

2018-01-19 19:21:33 UTC

if he found an engaging partner, a weekly stream could get some $$ too

2018-01-19 19:23:31 UTC

Streaming hearthstone and chill?

2018-01-19 19:24:12 UTC

no FUCK hearthstone, I meant talking about events for the week

2018-01-19 19:24:47 UTC

a recap of sorts?

2018-01-19 19:24:49 UTC

the whole point of his second channel I guess, but for his main one

2018-01-19 19:25:04 UTC

things covered, uncovered, and answering Qs

2018-01-19 19:25:44 UTC

Would like to see things that the MSM refuses to cover. Could be interesting.

2018-01-19 19:25:47 UTC

A good one hour is good enough I guess

2018-01-19 19:26:08 UTC

Go over shit that is not big enough for one vid?

2018-01-19 19:27:10 UTC

it doesnt need structure honestly, but has that conversational tone/interaction with donators

2018-01-19 19:27:58 UTC

Or answer questions that get brought up. Like dailywire and their mailbag sessions

2018-01-19 19:29:41 UTC

ye and he can bring his opinions up as opposed to unbiased reporting, YT severely lacks a consumer->creator line unless you stream, for whatever reason

2018-01-19 19:30:30 UTC

tbh youtube should seperate itself from google as a brand

2018-01-19 19:31:15 UTC

barely anybody refers to youtube as a company anymore, they just say google

2018-01-19 19:32:47 UTC

Thing is whoever is running the show isnt the most competant

2018-01-19 19:34:16 UTC

referring to the CEO?

2018-01-19 19:34:33 UTC

probably due to the 40+ hours of weekly sensitivity training

2018-01-19 19:34:56 UTC

have they reduced the amount?

2018-01-19 19:35:27 UTC

No shit?

2018-01-19 19:37:34 UTC

I exaggerate, but google seems committed to things that arent exactly utilitarian

2018-01-19 19:38:47 UTC

where did we start? ah... ad-videos on sundays... yes, monitor the views, make sure you don't sound like you want to bullshit people, 30 second donation ads might work at the end of videos but not as a replacement of sponsored, weekly stream with a partner (that does not just agree with you) might be a good idea... did i miss something?

2018-01-19 19:39:59 UTC

I mean they are behaving exactly how you would expect concidering they have a monopoly and virtually no incentive to imrpove their products

2018-01-19 19:41:58 UTC

they do give engineers a lot more room to improve the end products compared to other shady companies like Microsoft, Apple, etc

2018-01-19 19:42:24 UTC

besides the core functionality of youtube and google ofc

2018-01-19 19:42:54 UTC

the rest of their products get regular improvements and aren't too beurocratic

2018-01-19 19:44:28 UTC

they also contribute quite a bit to extremely useful open source projects that don't actually make them money currently such as https://www.dartlang.org/ https://flutter.io/

2018-01-19 19:44:49 UTC

i'd say TensorFlow but they use it quite a bit internally and it's integrated pretty heavily into a few GCP products

2018-01-19 21:24:08 UTC

End fake news? not a chance

2018-01-19 21:24:37 UTC

would be nice if journalists in general had integrity for the truth

2018-01-19 21:24:48 UTC

too bad it's all agenda based these days

2018-01-19 21:47:18 UTC

In theory, once AI becomes advanced enough, we could use them as impartial editors/curators for news

2018-01-19 21:47:48 UTC

The problem is, by the time AI becomes advanced enough to do that, the people creating them will have ways of making the AI think it's unbiased even though it is

2018-01-19 21:48:38 UTC

I don't think we'll ever get to that point, since rarely are events ever so cut-and-dry.

2018-01-19 21:49:08 UTC

AI will completely miss the nuance and spirit of a situation, placing only the cold hard facts in their place.

2018-01-19 21:49:47 UTC

I don't think AI is or will be capable of understanding context, basically.

2018-01-19 21:50:14 UTC

Maybe not in our lifetime

2018-01-19 21:50:18 UTC

It will eventually though

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