And honestly, I think most people hold beliefs that they still dotn understand themselves.

Some are still discovering it.

Well, not "understand". more like come to grips with it.

I think race is rael and inprotent that's also something I think is important.

sorry real and what word there

I think that, for some, race will always be important

Oh important

And those people shouldn't be marginalized for that belief alone.

Problem is, can we say something has value if everyone values it differently?

Hello friends.

And what are we discussing this evening?

Profile from EvE online? I recognize it from somewhere

Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

I mean, it looks familiar

It's not EVE but it's close enough.

Well, we had a long discussion with Aussie about well... His ideas

I have such spicy statistics to post.

I came halfway through so

No idea

Pony racial purity.

Regarding his views, you'd be surprised how quickly it is emerging from the fringe of mainstream politics.

And well, before anyone asks, I find the concept of racial purity subpar to the concept of ideological unity.

Overarching ideological unity

And yet race is so frequently a determinant of the ideological unity you seek.

none of that 'one of us' crap.

Well, I should hope the left realises this before they start appearing. Afterall, call a man a monster enough and he will become one.

I don't think it's race, so much as regional culture.

The based black constitutional conservative is a unicorn.

Gamergate called me sexist, so I became one

I don't see myself as a monster since I don't hate. I'm just want a future for my people.

Well, lets not discuss that for now while the embers are still hot

Oh Im not implying that sorry

I was referencing myself there.

A black individual from Alabama votes at roughly the same frequency for Democrats as they do in California.

Silly we can't post images on a news discussion chatroom.

shitposting only.

And you're right, black people frequently vote for Democrats. What would you say the cause of that is?

I think it's blacks voting as a group.

I don't think that's correct, Aussie. That's awfully conspiratorial.

I mean, its a voting bloc

Even dems view it that way

and its sad

Well, yes.

Sorry that's what I ment.

Phrasing?

yeah, phrasing.

I get what you're saying, then.

But no, it really comes down to marketing.

Well... Welfare as well is an issue.

(Funny enough, that's what most of the world comes down to...)

Yeah, there's that

Also I dont get it as well.

Asians are really meriticratic, but they vote blue mostly in the US

I think they are doing it for their ingroup interests.

I'll make this particular point: We have a certain... unnnamed element.... on the far right... that minorities might be scared of.

The fact that they exist...

mean that the left

Well, Id say, stop being so scared.

can use that group

to make these minorities scared to vote for a republican.

Thing is, even if people like Aussie didnt exist.

I think it's more complicated than that.

They would still say that anyway.

We don't want to hurt people.

Oh, it definitely is

But you will if you must.

if they don't do what you say.

So very high welfare consumption, opposition to religious liberty, opposition to immigration reductions, much higher crime rates, almost monolithically Democratic...Need I say more?

Pretty much.

mmm, it's even still more complicated.

I mean, one issue I see is the same with the gun issue

I dont trust the govt to carry out their plan

Cause to have it work, youd need to give them alot of power

Well to that I would ask you why California is a blue state now.

And well, that comes with a certain level of trust.

No voting ID and sanctuary state?

No.

Ginga, that's the effect, not the cause.

Ah fair

But it sure aint helping.

Because a bunch of rich people who use their money to make it blue

Have a look at what Lex posted in shitposting it explains it.

Well, also, large cities tend to be democratic, and even in the system of the electoral college a big enough city can determine how the entire state votes.

@Deleted User except it fails to account for economic status

Again, effects, not causes.

Well lets not get back to the bar you guys just brawled at

When you take only one variable and focus on it out of a larger equation, you are not seeing an accurate representation of the data

It's just showing how different demographics vote.

oh, we're already there, Ginga.

Don't worry.

Yeah, but you're posting that with implication.

Also failed to add things like "college educated blacks"

No, a statistic of mine accounted for this. How much more do you think blacks vote for Republicans following them becoming educated or wealthy?

eeehhhh, there's that, maybe...

It's still overwhelmingly Democratic.

Too bad we cant see reasons for voting

Imagine how much more we can get out of it if we could read minds.

You can account for wealth difference, income difference, generation difference, regional differences, single parent household, dual-parent household, multi-generational. It's all overwhelmingly Democratic.

I mean more like, why they voted X.

Why do you thin they vote for the democrats?