one vanished completely, the other left a note saying "Rent is paid for 12 months, going to mexico with boyfriend don't look for me."

Was that 8 a typo or did an 8-year-old in your family vanish? I wouldn't classify that as 'noping' out.

No..

my father vanished when I was 8

Ah, ok.

my mother stayed around long enough for me to be "legal" and vanished

or well

not vanish, she at least said fuck off

It seems like a lot of people view relationships as business deals. This is depressing to me.

Oh I do not, however..most girls bore me

so..

and I don't like Dick.

I'm not trying to say relationships should be economic exchanges, I'm just trying to give my opinion on why we're seeing the changes we're seeing.

People used to need to pool two incomes to live a comfortable middle-class lifestyle. It was a motivating factor. Now they don't.

Relationships are, in essence, business deals.

Clearly there are still some economic benefits. Shared expenses and economies of scale.

But they're minor.

And women, being the gatekeepers, are now free to be choosier. They don't seem to mind waiting for a better mate to come along (even if no one comes along), or sharing the attention of one high-tier male with a few other women.

Why are women the gatekeepers? Gatekeepers of what?

Men can be choosy too

See above chart.

It takes agreement on both sides to form a modern relationship

Yes, but there are still straight men who say no to female suitors.

I hear men use the term "ugly" often enough when referring to a woman

That's because bitches be crazy.

I say no to single moms and women who weigh more than 2/3rds my weight.

So you're being choosy

Compared to men, women have little risk in modern relationships.

What if the woman is your height or taller? Is maybe 3/4 or 4/5 your weight reasonable then? Or are you choosy about height as well?

a woman taller than me wouldn't date me

Women have TONS of risk in a modern relationship

Being left a single mom is a big risk

I had a girl criticize me because I was only 2" taller than her.

That's her problem. Would you reject a taller woman?

No.

But it wouldn't come up.

You assume

That's like saying would I reject finding a gold bar in my mailbox.

No. Height is one of the most important factors for women.

I don't know how tall you are so I guess I can't say.

And not all women are so fickle. I'd like to say most aren't but maybe I hang around with atypical women.

I live in a pretty red area although I am from around Portland, OR originally

I used to be 5'11" but I got kinda *squished* in the military. Lost about 3/4" to disc damage.

The women I hang out with outside of work are all nerds and weebs. As long as you can appreciate anime and RPG, they're putty in your hands. 😃

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlLH_ph74Es>

Sorry to hear that. And thank you for your service. Which side of Army-Navy will you be on, or are you a wing wiper?

As for me, Go Navy!

Grunt.

Sounds like we have a medical discharge in common

My perspective has been shaped by my parents, I guess. High school sweethearts who recently celebrated their 50th. This may be a rarity these days.

But the best-friends-growing-old-together model is what I know. 🤷

I have neighbors like that.

I'm the sort of person who probably would have done that had I met someone in HS. I was told once that the expectation was that I'd just drop by to visit relatives and already have a wife in tow lol

Finding someone compatible who isn't already taken and is willing to go for it is a bit of a hurdle though

Marriage is damn hard work. Worth it, but hard work. My parents celebrated their 50th this year. My sister has been married once, faithfully, since 1984. We've been married since 1990. My wife's next eldest and youngest sisters have also only been married once and are still faithfully married. We've all had tough moments, my wife likely the worst, but we are stubborn and refuse to let it go.

I hope that my marriage turns out like that.

When I get married.

👰 <-she's out there somewhere 😃

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/give-alex-jones-press-credentials-and-sit-him-next-jim-acosta

"she's out there somewhere"

possibly having died or having yet to be born

"Having yet to be born"

Yikes.

hey, 50 and 30. it happens

also 80 and 18 but if she wants wrinkly dick for money, who are we to judge.

Sigh...romance really is dead, isn't it? :p

I'm a romantic. Let me have my illusions, okay? :p

If you're older than someone, there was some point in your life at which you could have said "they haven't been born yet"

And why do you assume its wrinkly dick for money.
Maybe she's found her true love.

then the universe is cruel to her for giving her maybe 10-20 years with this "true love"

The universe is indeed harsh

And sometimes people die young and a marriage lasts only a few years whether it be childbirth , cancer or whatever else. Adults can make their own decisions and I'm not gonna tell them what to do with their lives. I'll ask to make sure this is what they want and then move on.

Communism is gay

The ultimate criticism of communism @>_

Tim's recent video on his Timcast channel where he opined on a Daily Mail article about UK hate crime legislation. He felt USA has things much better than UK. I'm not sure the gulf is quite so large. I think UK is not as bad as Tim believes and USA is not as good as Tim believes. Although USA is still better, I agree there, I'm contending the size of the gap.

Every case in that Daily Mail article didn't even result in a prosecutuon let alone a conviction. So they weren't evidence of bad laws. Rather I lay the blame at antiracism campaigners misinforming the public into thinking trivial events can be considered hate crimes. That's not to say the laws themselves aren't without their problems, as the Count Dankula case proves. But the laws weren't to blame for the stupidity detailed in that Daily Mail article.


Then about USA, the recent case of the witch hunted Chipotle manager absolutely fucking stunk. Americans should be seriously concerned that social media lynch mobs can influence your society so much. Being smug about your state being effectively subdued has perhaps left you complacent to non-state threats to your freedoms.

@Sarah Jessica Farter#2704 there is a difference because the Chipotle thing can happen in the UK where as, to my knowledge, the Dog thing wouldn't happen in the US. At least not as a hate crime, it might be violation of local ordinances but that is hardly treated the same as hate crimes.

I have a topic I wanted to discuss here

Dinesh D'Souza argued (convincingly) that Richard Spencer is on the left, and that is only using the media to label him as Far Right because it's the only way for him to gain popularity

does anyone here disagree with this point?

That sounds about right. I don't think horsehoe theory really matters here. He clearly believes in authoritarian and socialist ideas. That doesnt make him far right.

It makes him far left.

that seems like thats kind of out there

You can't be so authoritarian that you're libertarian.

also im pretty sure left or right doesnt matter with authoritarianism

I bet there's people that disagree here, so let's wait a bit

This is where the left/right simplification falls down

because I think that if this fact gets out in the wild. Most of the outrage from the left loses it's edge

look at the Philippines, duarte kills people committing a crime without due process

extremeism is never good

There are many people who are on the left for libertarian reasons

It more or less does. Don't ancaps fall in the furthest right, and ancommie the exact opposite

As i have explained a lot here, for many the right is authoritarian and the left is the end of personal liberty

isnt that the same thing?

It's gone through phases. 20 years ago the right was authoritarian.

This is from the perspective of someone who has been on the working end of hate from those who affiliate with the right

It was very religious and puritanical.

Just like the left is now

well maybe not puritanical

You don't think?

About following a strict ideology and maintaining the status quo unless you're ousted and destroyed.

pretty sure slut walks arent pure

pu·ri·tan·i·cal
/ˌpyo͝orəˈtanək(ə)l/
adjectiveDEROGATORY
practicing or affecting strict religious or moral behavior.