Is it cringe?

she'd look like a real actual boiled potato

Lacie Green used to be full on listen and believe.

her head is perfectly round

I saw that vid

Men and women are perfectly equal - except men are so bad that they are more likely to rape than women are likely to lie.

A man would rather rape than a woman would lie. Thanks feminism.

Such bull crap

It's scary that they basically own all the courts.

I do wonder why men rape more than women though

In all seriousness

While we celebrate that we are wining the "culture war" on YouTube, they pass law after law that further erode rights and due process.

@Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys I'm not even sure about that. I think men tend to be more physically aggressive, but in a situation of similar power differential, I think women rape at about the same rates.

It's what you can now see in a lot of schools - except, there we don't call it rape, of course. It's a "tryst" or an "affair".

Theres nothing to wonder about
men are sexually aggressive
it can't be avoided

porn is making it worse though

Yes but I mean what gene string causes this

Hmm ... I don't know. I would have found it just as obvious as you a few years ago, but with all the rampant double standards, where we do not even acknowledge rape by women, it's pretty hard to tell.

Or strings

Remember that the FBI didn't even acknowledge a definition of rape according to which women could rape men until 2013.

So, if it's defined away, it's hard to find data in the literature on it.

Can women rape men tho

can they

Yes.

I don't know about that I dont think i've ever heard of that happening

"Listen and believe"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUDSAdRGpGI

I disagree, double standards are a bad thing but personally I know a male sexual offender and none female

it's usually just some 15 year old fucked his teacher

And most do

Studies have found similar psychological reaction by boys who have been taken advantage of.

People I mean

Which studies?

I think there have been about half a dozen on the subject now.

In the US alone.

Which ones specifically

I'd have to go to my Athena account.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Doh8iEtV4AA18bv.jpg

What about that woman in montana: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/27/montana-woman-with-machete-hides-behind-ex-boyfriends-door-then-forces-sex-on-him-police-say/?utm_term=.a13a5f5995e1

Damn that hot

I still don't see that as rape
They can't force penetration

Jeez

Unwanted sex is rape.

Physically speaking
it doesn't make sense

hmm ...

A man would at least need to be able to get it up

for the act of sex to begin

and if he was unwilling

how could he get it up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013870/Robber-broke-hair-salon-beaten-black-belt-owner-kept-sex-slave-days-fed-Viagra.html

THATS MY FETISH

Reminiscent of Pulp Fiction?

that dude didnt watch pulp fiction

not the black belt one. The machete yandere girl

I think thats a fair point I have made actually

very fair

I understand that there is double standard on rape but I hear a lot more males who might talk about rape casually and knew one who sexually assaulted someone I know.

Then what about women's rape fantasies?

You cant rape the willing

So while I think female rapists do exist

I think they are less likely

Probably some gene

But seriously
How can it be forced intercourse if a man's flag is raised
if it was unwanted he would be flaccid??

I do wonder if it is just one

Or multiple though

XD

Women can get sex more easily. which contributes in my opinion.

>if you're attracted you consent
>what's a viagra

I get what you mean

But then child send would be legal

By that logic

?? So she has to force feed the man a viagra first?

>nobody slips drugs into people's drinks ever

If a 90 yr old man had intercourse with a 12 yr old boi it is plausible for him to get an erection

So if a woman is aroused not rape?

can you slip viagra into a drink?

Yes

Are you sure about that

So I don’t think that should be a reason

There's like a million prank vids

whats the chemical composition of viagra

Of idiots giving their friends bonerdrank

Also in the one example the woman was force feeding viagra to the guy.

So what I'm seeing here is for it to be classified rape
1. The woman must be armed
2. The woman must first slip a viagra into his drink??

how many times has this happened

im betting close to 0

Wot

Gtg *sleep* if u catch my drift

No, to be classified as rape
>man doesn't consent to sex
>sex is had

Chas

*cyas

Arousal is not consent

How do I get 🅱erified?

Arousal is not consent <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

Why?

You can have a conflict of interests

many women who have been raped admitted to being aroused. still rape

>get turned on by someone
>decide you don't want to do it and say so
>they have sex with you anyway
Why would this be okay?

You can arouse men against their will, even without viagra.

Im not sure any of this is on the same level as forced penetration of a woman

Statutory rape is another case.

I wonder how many men have been legitimately raped by women?

not just #metoo i was having sex but then I didnt want to

I don't know.

And we won't know until the reporting is objective and the same for men as it is for women.

If the genders were reversed, there would be an outcry if a woman had to pay child support to her rapist.

I feel like a good 90% of men would have no problem being forced to have sex with a woman

We do not have double standards, and we minimize the effect and impact on men.

We usually use humor to deflect.

yes if the genders were reversed there would be an outcry
because men and women are different

you cant apply standards equally

Well, if I would use the feminist definition, I think I was raped 6? times.

I don't think its a very good idea for men to use female criteria on themselves

Pressured into sex when not completely in the mood, under the influence of alcohol, a power differential in positions.

Touched while I was asleep, let's see what else?

Hmm ... I was probably raped a dozen times or so.

And don't forget explicit, enthusiastic consent, a la yes means yes.

I should make a Go Fund Me. Pls donate

Also, Brett Kavanaugh raped me 999999999 times in 1459. I can't remember where or when exactly and there were no witnesses.

I don't think its a good idea to have a separate set of criteria

ARE YOU CALING ME A LIAR?

I think it is

if men and women were identical psychologically and biologically then okay but they aren't

That was in re: to "female criteria", sorry to undermine the meme

Why do you hate women?

>not consenting to sex is different because you're an outtie

Who hurt you?

too many neet arrows

eternal summer has rendered people ignorant

But that's also #notanargument m8

maybe @Deleted User is advocating that women do not deserve legal equality?

You're going to have to explain how we get from "sexual dimorphism" to "um actually you did want that sex"

Cuz that's where the disconnect is for me

Why should the law have the power to grant equality?

I AM THE LAW

The law is there to provide a framework for just response to actions that violate the rights of the citizenry

Of which sexual assault can be counted

Why should that apply unequally to some citizens?

So the government decides what counts as equal?

not to grant equality. that it should be equally applied.

Agreed.

Equality before the law would be great.

There is currently a gender sentencing gap of 60%, in terms of prison time and chances of conviction.

Tillyer, Rob, Richard D. Hartley, and Jeffrey T. Ward. "Differential treatment of female defendants: Does criminal history moderate the effect of gender on sentence length in federal narcotics cases?." Criminal justice and behavior 42.7 (2015): 703-721.

So you're interested in equality of outcome

Starr, Sonja B. "Estimating gender disparities in federal criminal cases." American Law and Economics Review 17.1 (2014): 127-159.

Equality before the law requires anarcho-capitalism.

Equality before the law requires us to be ruled by NAZI PUGS!!!Q

No, I am interpreting what your saying like this: Asians commit murder at such a lower rate than blacks they can't really commit murder so don't bother investigating them

Yes, that's BS.

Its not really murder when they do it

You guys have gotten lost in your own arguments

That's also why the rate of false allegations, or the supposed rate, should not enter into due process.

It's also not necessarily true that it's a vastly lower rate fwiw

You're literally saying if man hard not rape.

If that was the case, we should get rid of trials in murder cases, because the rate of false convictions is so low.

But the legal definition of certain crimes has been slanted

Yes grant I am

https://youtu.be/jciTR2wvb1M

Doesn't matter if man retrained and force fed viagra hes hard so not rape.

unless they've been implanted with viagra

I doubt they're being raped

again

when has that ever happened

Or, as the crime rate changes, we would have to adjust due process. We just generate a random number, with percentages roughly equal to the false conviction rate, to decide if someone is guilty.

i literally linked an article

its just your wild hypothetical
and only in that hypothetical can you find something resembling rape

is that the only instance in which it would be considered rape?

i'd agree with you on that

You've been given multiple examples, including blatant instances of the things we're talking about

Also passed out man can get hard. is that still not rape?

OH, wow. Hoppe.

I am glad people are watching him.

Unsurprinsingly, the channel only has 1.7K subs, but at least it's on YT.

so if someone is rubbing themselves on a passed out man thats rape?

Rape is a state of mind.

sounds like sexual assault

I think the person that initially turned me away from the "left" was Thomas Sowell.

I'd say he pulled the thread that eventually caused the whole sweater to unravel.

>rubbing
You were given a clear example

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Oh, we're back to rape.

Rubbing?

Beeman stay focused

Why are you guys chat raping me?

Did you ask for my consent before talking to me?

if tru SJW ARE FUCKING IN THIS SHIT DEEP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-HTglRTF8

You ignored the example @grant made

My consent has to be enthusiastic and ongoing. So please ask me before each message.

what example ? we were talking about rubbing

No

😦

You changed the subject lol

scroll up beeman

scroll up

Yes

He's clearly not talking about rubbing

"Also passed out man can get hard. is that still not rape?"

>a man would need viagra or he'd need to want it
>a passed out man can get hard
>is rubbing on him rape?
Dishonesty

That Quartering video is interesting.

I have friends at Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. They all say roughly the same.

is this guy out of it or what

That's true. Men can even get hard when unconscious.

How can any man seriously believe that you have to want sex to get hard, like do you even have a dick?

Do hard dicks not want sex?

Actually ... now that you put it that way ...

My dick doesn't have a mind

Dick wakes up before I do.

when i think of all the awkward boners i couldn't get rid of

Yeah, erection is a pretty bad measurement for consent.

Is our biology separate from our consciousness?

Or enjoyment, or whatever.

That's a bad argument.

Your body isn't completely under your command, no

There are many processes we are only partially in control of.

If our biology is not separate from our consciousness than what our biology wants is what we want

That's getting too hyperbolic for me.

Yes. Our consciousness isn't separate from our biology, but our biology is separate from our consciousness.

According to Thomas Jefferson 2.0 Brock Turners crime was not getting the girl off

Okay, you keep going. I don't want to gang up on him.

Women get wet during rape, does that mean it is impossible to rape a woman?

or make him feel like that's what we're doing

because that would be rape

Is personal choice not separate from impulses to you?

Only if it's legitimate rape.

It seems very grey

Women's bodies have a way of shutting that process down.

Unconscious thought is voluntary.

A doctor told me once.

@grant wait was that a strawman

Sorry, I had to rip on Republicans from time to time, too.

get outta here

Nah, it's all fine, as long as we are attacking ideas, not people.

I dont think there is a full equivalency between male and female rape
female rape is worse
90% of the time the man is having fun

How often have you been raped?

I dont know what the criteria is anymore

Asspulled statistic

Not knowing is a good place to start, actually.

Am I making you hot under the bonnet with my words beeman

I don't really know anymore, either.

It's become rather murky, all of it.

No you're just failing to make a proper argument, repeatedly

Too murky to lock someone up over for 20 years.

Yeah youre sizzling

Thomas Jefferson 2.0 do you have a penis?

I think Brett is guilty and should get life

DID YOU JUST ASSUME THEIR GENDER?!

rubbing yourself on the opposite sex is rape

"Lol ur mad"
0 arguments lol

Wait, are you serious about Brett?

All just strawmen and bait. GGs