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Ah, I'll have to watch it later. I may or may not be at school right now.
Hes going to have a one on one with ralph
I do like Sargon.
The only contribution Ralph has made to mankind is "NOW WAIDDAMINUD"
Sargon needs to practice what he preaches.
NOOOOO MATTT NOOOOO
I may not agree with everything he says, but he's cool.
@Inquisition agree
I think sargons old stuff is bad his new stuff is really good
his long form stuff is pro
NOW WAIDDAMINUD MATT
he can still be a dick sometimes
Agree ^
sargons longform venezueal video was really good
...I think that's just being a certain flavor of British.
heres the thing
Mad respect to you tim for calling him out in nyc
when i called sargona a dick he was like "yea I get it"
you call a regresive out and they spew acid vomit
In person too
Its like when Wolverine calls Cyclops a dick in the first movie
i called him out on stage at his own event and he acknowledged it
thats why i respect him and consider him a friend
he can self reflect
he can admit when he makes mistakes and improve
What about his principles though ?
and its that trait that allows him to be good at what he does
Sometimes, ya gotta be a dick if it's the only way people will listen. But ya gotta know when to turn conciliatory once people understand you find what they're doing horrid.
Calros made a point about how "manspreading" just incites and doesnt help
sargon agreed
so i asked him why he called nicholas matte a soyboy
I'm sure he likes you too, you bloody wanker.
Probably cuz its fun to do that periodically
in the context of the debate matte did nothing uncivil
so I think it was not warranted
Oh it was during a debate
I thought you meant in a video or something
"The killstream"
sargon sucks at live debates
it was in reference to the MAtte Peterson debate
Oh, okay. Yeah I can see how that's a problem.
sargon referenced the video
not to amttes face
so I can understand calling someone out and being rude if they are uncivil
Man killstream is great
I'm not surprised oprahsminge thinks this.
like sargon told richard carrier to shut up several times in Milwaukee so I booed
I will always have a fondness for Sargon, because watching his videos encouraged me to think more centrically. But the recent internet drama regarding him, Kraut and Tea, and now Jim and TL;DR... it's turned me off a lot.
If he wants to tell people to take the high road, and be more thoughtful and more politically active, I'm all for that. But when he reverts to older Sargon and base insults and things like that... especially when he's said previously to take the argument and not the person.
Just the best
Every time this particular person speaks, it's something silly.
carrier was interrupting
but its still bad form imo
Wait, he was?
welp. Time to go do more work. Nice talking
Skeptic didn't even bring that up.
Ralph is a fantastic host
It made Sargon look terrible. I had no idea Carrier was interrupting.
yea he was
How much more difficult is it to say, "could I finish my point" to Dr. Carrier than say "shut up"?
Gotta respect Sargon for admitting he needed to take a step back
What the fuck, that's completely different.
but sargon was dominating the conversation
for a whole 24 hours
imo i think no one was at fault to an extreme degree
or 48
sargon went hard
there is polite ways to interrupt and polite ways to tell someone to shut up.
carrier would cut him off
sargon said shut up
Sargon expected a hardline SJW
in a debate you dont look good saying shut up
And got...Carrier, who's not very hardline anything
yea and he got an ally lol
carrier agreed with him
ye
I actually ribbed Sargon about it after the fact, gave him the "intellectually blueballed" term he used later in his wrap up vid, lol
hahaha
I do like him joining a political party, and trying to influence positive change from the inside. I wish we had more people doing that.
The main issue with joining politics is that you actually have to deal with politicians in person
I just wish the more mainstream political parties were the ones who were receptive to new ideas. I don't know that UKIP is the party of effective governance and change.
It's no different than going to most workplaces.
You have to deal with office politics.
Except office politics is the actual work
Not always.
My office politics is managers trying to advance up the corporate ladder.
Smiling to your face whilst trying to get you fired.
Looking for ways to prove to their managers that they are worthy of promotion and praise.
Meanwhile, the front-line employees are just doing their 9 to 5.
When Ralph (Retort) was happy that Sargon was initially rejected from UKIP
That should've disintegrated Ralph's credibility
The fuck is he happy about that for?
Seriously.
ralph was totally right
Oprah doesn't seem to get it.
When sargon didnt protest for Tommy that should have disintegrated sargon
No you don't seem to get it
This is about Ralph right now.
This is about sargon now
Don't veer off, I will snap you back into place.
What did Ralph have to be happy about?
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