Message from @Grenade123

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2018-10-11 19:16:42 UTC  

like sargon told richard carrier to shut up several times in Milwaukee so I booed

2018-10-11 19:16:44 UTC  

I will always have a fondness for Sargon, because watching his videos encouraged me to think more centrically. But the recent internet drama regarding him, Kraut and Tea, and now Jim and TL;DR... it's turned me off a lot.

If he wants to tell people to take the high road, and be more thoughtful and more politically active, I'm all for that. But when he reverts to older Sargon and base insults and things like that... especially when he's said previously to take the argument and not the person.

2018-10-11 19:16:45 UTC  

Just the best

2018-10-11 19:16:46 UTC  

Every time this particular person speaks, it's something silly.

2018-10-11 19:16:48 UTC  

carrier was interrupting

2018-10-11 19:16:53 UTC  

but its still bad form imo

2018-10-11 19:17:11 UTC  

Wait, he was?

2018-10-11 19:17:12 UTC  

welp. Time to go do more work. Nice talking

2018-10-11 19:17:15 UTC  

Skeptic didn't even bring that up.

2018-10-11 19:17:17 UTC  

Ralph is a fantastic host

2018-10-11 19:17:24 UTC  

It made Sargon look terrible. I had no idea Carrier was interrupting.

2018-10-11 19:17:28 UTC  

yea he was

2018-10-11 19:17:29 UTC  

How much more difficult is it to say, "could I finish my point" to Dr. Carrier than say "shut up"?

2018-10-11 19:17:30 UTC  

Gotta respect Sargon for admitting he needed to take a step back

2018-10-11 19:17:31 UTC  

What the fuck, that's completely different.

2018-10-11 19:17:41 UTC  

but sargon was dominating the conversation

2018-10-11 19:17:42 UTC  

for a whole 24 hours

2018-10-11 19:17:51 UTC  

imo i think no one was at fault to an extreme degree

2018-10-11 19:17:52 UTC  

or 48

2018-10-11 19:17:54 UTC  

sargon went hard

2018-10-11 19:17:58 UTC  

there is polite ways to interrupt and polite ways to tell someone to shut up.

2018-10-11 19:17:58 UTC  

carrier would cut him off

2018-10-11 19:18:00 UTC  

sargon said shut up

2018-10-11 19:18:07 UTC  

Sargon expected a hardline SJW

2018-10-11 19:18:10 UTC  

in a debate you dont look good saying shut up

2018-10-11 19:18:16 UTC  

And got...Carrier, who's not very hardline anything

2018-10-11 19:18:16 UTC  

yea and he got an ally lol

2018-10-11 19:18:22 UTC  

carrier agreed with him

2018-10-11 19:18:25 UTC  

ye

2018-10-11 19:18:55 UTC  

I actually ribbed Sargon about it after the fact, gave him the "intellectually blueballed" term he used later in his wrap up vid, lol

2018-10-11 19:19:43 UTC  

hahaha

2018-10-11 19:20:49 UTC  

I do like him joining a political party, and trying to influence positive change from the inside. I wish we had more people doing that.

2018-10-11 19:21:30 UTC  

The main issue with joining politics is that you actually have to deal with politicians in person

2018-10-11 19:21:31 UTC  

I just wish the more mainstream political parties were the ones who were receptive to new ideas. I don't know that UKIP is the party of effective governance and change.

2018-10-11 19:21:53 UTC  

It's no different than going to most workplaces.

2018-10-11 19:22:01 UTC  

You have to deal with office politics.

2018-10-11 19:22:23 UTC  

Except office politics is the actual work

2018-10-11 19:22:29 UTC  

Not always.

2018-10-11 19:22:46 UTC  

My office politics is managers trying to advance up the corporate ladder.

2018-10-11 19:22:57 UTC  

Smiling to your face whilst trying to get you fired.

2018-10-11 19:23:17 UTC  

Looking for ways to prove to their managers that they are worthy of promotion and praise.