there is, Agnostics cop out
Atheists reject the existance of god (Cuz they don't believe in one)

no it doesnt

it means without beleif

It's deried from the worth theos

Which is god

```the·ism
ˈTHēˌizəm
noun
belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.```

Yes with out god.

With out a god.

the idea of Atheism is without belief

The term, means without god

Right

The etymological root for the word atheism originated before the 5th century BCE from the ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god(s)".

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.

there is a god? can you see this? makes sense? wheeooowheeeoooo god alert

My computer... is god?

Deus Ex Machina

all and nothing

if god not real who invented the dab

Okay, but agnostics don't think it's all or nothing.

dab is a nazi move,

it stands for
Die
Arischen
Bruderschap

😉

Maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't, some of this stuff seems legit, and I like the stories.

no god is all and god is nothing. we are god. we can choose how we determine what god is. do other animals do this? are we greater than any other being we've encountered so far?

I think there's both value and danger in organized religion.

i think god is you when you die. you relfect back on your life and see what heaven or hell you created

theres nothing religions gives that can't be replaced,
And it breeds ignorance of fact

organized religion is ironic in itself. religion is to the self, so we must teach the self to be sturdy to withstand the weight of life.

At risk of sounding like a walking, talking fedora

I don't think everyone is ready to come to grips with the idea that God might not exist

its not even that

its much worse Rye

but god doesssssssss

No I don't think so.

People don't want to come to grips that communism is bad, and even without government you will have to work too

is it what we think it is? how can we conceive it... i have no idea what im talking about but we can decide to do things on choice? or is just some bacteria in my belly telling my meatsack to change the channel?

God is a non-issue ultimately,

Its a meaning of life that people seek

People used to find meaning by following the word of god (in religion)
Then the west started killing god, and people lost meaning

Now they seek meaning in bringing good to the world by all means a new dogma (SJW'ism)

Oh, no, I absolutely believe that.

Once we figure out how to do immortality, people will become GODS

100% agree.

That's actually my baggiest problem with Jordan Peterson. Is his constant reliance god.

And religion specifically.

If you're going to REMOVE Dogma from your life

You can't replace it with an atheistic replacement.

uh oh google.... https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe=off&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB734GB734&biw=1920&bih=957&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=vCJKW7CMDcTVgQa-qK2IAg&q=prophet+mohammed&oq=prophet+mohammed&gs_l=img.3..0i10k1j0j0i10k1j0l2j0i10k1l2j0l2j0i10k1.5917.9071.0.12351.16.16.0.0.0.0.115.1493.13j3.16.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.16.1446...35i39k1j0i67k1.0.HJ0SKGI15w4

People replaced one faith with another,

Faith in a god, and serving his faith is the greater good
Disobey, and you are a sinner that must serve pennance (and are born with original sin)


Faith in SJW, and serving the faith is the greater good
Disobey, and you are a racist that must serve pennance (and are born with original oppression)

rip google

I don't like the way JP phrases his assertion that western civilization is based on Christian values.

It's part of his word games that is unnecessary

western civilization IS in part based on christian values, we just stopped following the dogma part

and we made our own

It is based on Christian values

the Secular civilisation,

We took the good, and dropped the bad

When n end-user claims local account on the PC password has been changed and they think I would know about it even though I have not touched the computer for months

The problem is people replacing those values with a new dogma.

right, but the values are not soloy Christian in origin

Which is my problem

its "Judeo-christian" 😉

Judo Christian!! :D

Karate-faithful

It's based on enlightenment values, which is more based on ancient Greek philosophy than Christian values. @missdanger

It's like "hey look, at set of values that existed before these religions, and in areas outside these religions, but let's only attribute them to these religions"

Ultimately, I disagree vehemently with principles of Christianity and Judaism, but I respect that they are fundamentally better than chaos.

Like I said, it's word games. Not technically wrong, but a bit misleading if you are not paying attention

We just did the roman thing,

We looked at other civilisations, hand picked things we liked, and used them for our own

we "Appropriated" cultural values we approved of 😄

thats the whole trick right? learn, adapt, improve or somethin?

What are you guys talking about

God

Oh

and religion

treachery

Oooh

and the great river!

denial?

The Invisible Hand

no, not denial

@RyeNorth Those aren't and weren't the only options even when they were developed.

never

oh wait, no that's a market term

There wouldn't be a university system without the church and monastism

Is stealing from other religions and then killing or convert everyone from that religion, then label all remaining followers as devil worshipers a Christian value?

Um

Nope

It is actually

we are animals what do you expect?

it is an original christian value

Atleast not anymore

I feel like America doesn't that often in a form or another.

It's a bit pointless to talking about it if the majority of the followers have abandoned it

Its what they did to the roman empire

They took all their stuff, and remoddled their temples into churches,
Killed all pagans

and everyone who isn't christian is a heathen

"hey look, a sovereign happy nation who happens to be a monarchy.... Let's annex it!"

@Dennafen I think that's valid, but it's also evident that atheists aren't returning intellectually to reconsider the path. What we're facing is the replacement of Christian dogma with Intersectional dogma

Ye

Atleast christianity kept a civilization together

Have you read waking up by Sam Harris?

Religion comes with 2 things, A god, and a Purpose

We took away religion,

We now have no god, and no purpose

i prefer ham sarris

I should've taken notes in my religious history class

Intersectionality will result in chaos

hence SJW's are all angry, atheists with no meaning in life

and they find meaning in the greater good of SJW

intersectionality is proof that roundabouts everywhere fucks the whole system up

Social Justice isn't a new thing.