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Maybe 2-3, but they were not high quality speakers.
Those would be very large and visible.
It looked like a 90s-era intercom speaker.
In the las vegas shooting all of it fell on stephen paddock or however you spell his name. That just wasn't true.
I'm wondering if there were events that unfolded before and the public narrative is all falling on one person. And only providing the countdown and explosion.
The talk about the cops initially being called for gunshots is slowly leaving the discussion. Does anyone have more on that?
There it is.
A lot of could* have scenarios with that given he wired alarms and rigged a bomb. Could have just used the more protective case and swapped for a modern speaker. The announcement for evacuation didn't seem nearly as loud. That could be the mic for this video feed, or the distance away causing that. ๐คท
Except we've seen the RV, speakers are very limited in being stealthy.
@busillis Doc had some good theories on that as well by the residue and color of smoke.
That was me pepehands
@TaLoN132 Laughter and crying are associated by the fact that they are entities controlled by the consciousness only indirectly. Like sexual arousal and fear, their centra belong in deeper structures of the brain, and are triggered by similar impulses. Like some people can see intense sounds as flashes of lights, the brain is not always able to produce the exact right response.
In addition you have something called "manic defense" which is part of the normal psychological range of reaction to trauma. I am one of those people, and have known to be laughing my ass off while people are actively trying to kill me. Just because I found it so funny that they were unable to. Which is better than a breakdown.
Id include images, but I am afraid Maw will have to squelch me and make me look like the fool I am.
Hardly a fool.
@Roadtrek Girl Ya, doc lacks experience with tannerite. It is an american chemical. In europe people use ANFO and ketoperoxides to blow up stuff.
@Maw I could post the images I was thinking of (NOT gore) with a spoiler thing over it? How does one do that?
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Both sides, don't think it works with images
Any ammonium nitrate explosion will have a orange/red tint to it, it's part of that particular compound (and is shared between lots of low-velocity high-explosives.)
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Why do you think I wouldn't approve?
Is it visually graphic, or textually graphic?
If it's considered 18+ in nature (incl. text works) I'm afraid I'd have to suggest no.
Until either we change our channels to be 18+ or keep them as is.
@Maw I have a defect. I do not react. It is therefore hard for me to know where that line runs.
this is manic defense
was this too far? (Im NOT being sarcastic, this is an actual deficit in me that I am very well aware of. ๐ฆ )
Yeah no little much.
akai
That just looks like a crosswalk sign
Generally if it's a scene of a serious injury/death that hasn't been cleaned, it's safe to say for now you shouldn't post it.
And that looked like a death.
noted
it was
Also was that you?
no
I would not need defense at all in that situation.
"work time"
yes
":|"
the guy in the image, however, was new to africa.
So for him, it was a trauma.
Looked similar to what was shown of an assassination of a medical official and their driver just before Iran bombed the green zone before christmas.
@SoonMrWick a robbery gone wrong. Someone picked the wrong dumb european to ambush.
I have all the graphic defenses, but I know I wouldn't be able to handle the smell, fresh or not. Getting a bit graphic myself here.
the smell stays forever.
Never leaves the nose.
How would you do with this? https://youtu.be/7GcybYaJwBo
As you cant control that directly. Goes back to the origin of the conversation. Smell is the only sense that bypasses the conscious brain. As it is the oldest sense.
I hear it's much worse than skunks, particularly because of the connotative attachment.
And is otherwise indescribable.
Camper salve?
rather easy to beat if you have an experienced doc on your team
camphor.
complete block of nervus olfactorius. (smell-nerve)
for at least 2 hrs.
So take it before going into an area that will otherwise permanently scar your nose.
(even if it's really mental scarring)
no, it only blocks the smell temporarily. You apply it inside your nose.
3 days on that skunk spray ๐ฌ
Yes, hence taking it before you approach anything that would leave a lasting smell imprint.
ah, yes. got it now. yes
@Doc Thanks... I knew you were the right one to loop in... I know that many people can not understand how someone could react with laughter or smiling in the most horrendous of circumstances. I am sure that the parent in question was doubly traumatized by the assertion that their pain was not real because of his uncontrollable impulse reaction in the midst of what was undoubtedly the worst day in their life.
oh, I am one of those people. I can describe that mechanism in detail.
Police do this frequently, and it's like, the one thing I usually give them credit for. They simply don't know how to react to people acting crazy around them or dying around them.
It's the same thing as being thrust into really, really awkward situations.
They usually laugh, and then shortly after break down when alone.
If they don't just straight up go to breaking down.
Absolutely... I remember some of my shipmates in the Navy who had the oddest gallows humor... often quite cringe-worthy.
@TaLoN132 you also have the "nothing to see here" shockphase. The bus driver who spends the time calling to order new winter tires for his car while waiting for the FD to come remove a child and a bicycle from under his bus. Some people think this is a sign of psychopathy. But it is a physiological acute phase reaction.
"nothing"
A mercy built into our psyches, I imagine...
It's the 'off' button.
well, yes, classical psychoanalysis calls this defense. The modern miltary pscyhology explains it as "sights the brain isnt designed to handle"
NSFL
In other words.
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NSFL?
Not safe for life.
ah!
yap
that is the modern mil psych version.
Some people know this from the books "The bulletproof mind" and "on killing" by LtCol Grossman
I believe they are almost right, but very wrong.
That one US Soldier that was discharged due to not being able to cope with handling the aftermath of the scene of an Apache attack helicopter on Iraqi civilians is a good example.
Could be a sub par debreif.
I saw many bad debriefers during my career.
I just got a notification that it passed the House....
If the debrief is wrong, then problems follow right behind it.
Oh, that one! Well, that is moral injury. One of the biggest killers of servicemen and women.
extremely dangerous!
I bet $2 it dies in the Senate.
Fuck mitch
He deserves to lose
Okay. If anyone wanted to watch the circus that clip began already complete (not live) The c-span after was the actual voting.
i second that.
@SANCTIONED, you just advanced to level 15!
So the Bookvar decision gave until January 22nd?
What's the point of that? Won't the courts just come back after and rule it moot?
Itโs up to the GOP, what will they do? https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-financial-markets-bills-f750c127c0d39a62a86ca39ef11ae7db
Yep
We have to do something about these commie judges
Yeah god forbid these judges actually call out bs lawsuits
@The Mongler we need to send them to China, to whom they have pledged allegiance. Or Venezuela.
The house would pass anything .... then they can cry that its the Republicans fault in the senate. Even though they failed to address the reasons it was sent back to them. Only enough to go on the news and complain.
i wonder why POTUS gave the dems a win, a FU to the reps?
Just send them to gitmo
Politics. The outcome is that Americans are shafted.
@SoonMrWick Americans are only shafted if the republican senate screws them over
No. If its still a pork stuff monstrosity then all Americans are still shafted.
@SoonMrWick isnโt all this pork people are talking about just part of the omnibus bill that was getting passed regardless
No less of a shafting regardless of what the bill is.
Well people make it sound like the democrats are the ones putting it in there. I think thats just standard stuff that gets passed every year. @SoonMrWick
why are we even being taxed if we can just print out trillions of dollars for pet projects?
Preach
What's your point. Its a constant problem. Its even more of a problem when trillions were added as debt during this obnoxious covid panic.@james j
fuck it, just let inflation be the taxation
Nobody's taking us up on the bet?
@SoonMrWick Iโm just saying that the narrative that the democrats are stuffing the bill with foreign aide money seems like a stretch. In the March bill republicans were trying to (and succeeded ) in getting the majority of the money to go to non vulnerable corporations. The house bill was more focused on ppe, small business , regular citizens and vulnerable non profits and giving them the bulk of the cash,
Ted Cruz was carrying on this (give non vulnerable corporations ) tradition in the new bill https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/12/28/ted-cruz-defends-effort-to-secure-pandemic-relief-for-oil-and-gas-companies-including-one-run-by-major-donors/%3foutputType=amp
Is anyone remembering that the covid relief fund from March still had millions left in it, and that this is combined into this Bill. This, if so, then that $ may also be going overseas. I get that media wants to focus on the $2000 stimulus/ relief part of bill but Trump also had other stipulations before he would sign it. I am not finding anything about that part of it. Just curious
most of the overseas shit is in the omnibus spending bill
which they are trying to package along with the covid relief bill
to force people to accept all the pork
What a mess
@RoseRN, you just advanced to level 9!
They should have made two separate bills
but this happens every year
they put off omnibus until the last minute
shovel in all the pork
and get to looming govt shutdown
Yes, it is no surprise you only see thru the lense of republicans bad. This was never a mystery. I'm saying both,are bad, but the blame will be propogated by the media that its the republicans fault if the reject it in the senate.
It's a tradition.
then they are forced to vote on it
because our lawmakers can not pass a bill without a figurative gun to their head
Best practice don't worry about what those bills say just do what you're overlord say.
I thought it was a good deal.
I thought it was too.
@SoonMrWick Iโm addressing this narrative that itโs the democrats putting pork in the bill. This is what I am hearing from the right. Why Trump and the GOP doesnโt want to sign it. You even said โthe reasons why they sent it backโ. Iโm saying it wasnโt the democrats
theres pork on both sides
Maybe they know something we don't.
why cant we split the bills
both sides are robbing us
So it's likely the amended bill for more direct payments won't pass the senate?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
I guess their own as many dummies as I thought.
GOP is only conservative when it ocmes to the american people
foreign people? Govt funding? special interests? pigs and the troft
All this talk of pork is making me want some barbecue....
Both sides say what you want to hear when they run for office, then after they win they only do what they are told by lobbies that funded them. The system is broken
@chuchomucho, you just advanced to level 1!
I havenโt seen a dime in a while. I havenโt touched paper money since the pandemic
i sit like a dragon on a hoard of silver
I hadn't touched paper money for a decade before the pandemic.
lol, im probably a solid 2
Perhaps longer
i cant wait for shit to get worse and i can pay a days wage with a piece of silver
@busillis sometimes I like making my money paper to visually see how much I am spending
How about getting paid directly in rice.
@SoonMrWick, you just advanced to level 30!
That's the thing about paper money but more cognizant account your back....
post collapse ofc
What caliber let me check Walmart and see??
Bullets are probably better than gold...
Wheel barrel of cash for ๐
As far as desirability.
initially sure
not long term
True..
silver and gold are always good, pre people killing eachother, post people killing eachother
Bic lighters and crack.
during people killing eachother
everyone wants it
After the initial 90% are dead then bullets not so much...
Yeah... That's not a thing. Once he signed it, it became law. There is no such thing as a conditional signing of the law.
Rice, beans, lemons ๐ , oranges, olives, almonds, tomatoes, lettuce, apricots, chickens, and guns.
antibiotics?
HELLO, I"M SURE ROBERT HAS NOT SEEN THIS.... BUT.... MAYBE FOR TOMORROW. CAN WE SPREAD THE WORD ASAP EVERYWHERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8fnRW2NQSc
Unfortunately lemons oranges olives almonds and apricots might be out of play for me.,
Plenty + alcohol + band aids.
Lots of sugar and yeast..
No, had an android tablet with a sim card for years.
What was the brand?
Nashville POLICE BODY CAM https://youtu.be/lBgm62C0q-w
Stuff like this cracks me up...
https://www.thewrap.com/twitter-lawsuit-hunter-biden-laptop/
That is pretty old and very fake. That is Rudy's Russian agent friend:
https://nypost.com/2020/09/10/russian-agent-hit-with-us-sanctions-related-to-election-interference/
Well that video started off nice. Much better decorations than anywhere near me did.
Which part of the video is fake? Surely itโs not fake because of his association with Giuliani...
Oh Rudy
But itโs a nice ad hominem
BOMBSHELL EVIDENCE
Turns out to be Rudy telling him what to say
Russian agent
Nashville????
To clarify known Russian agent
Lots of people travel with their dogs???
Any other refutations or evidence that itโs take besides ad hominems?
Think he shit his pants?
I guess that's a first line of defense against hunger.
Definitely
Someone was saying the girl that got the house had no idea she got the house @busillis
That's what the daily mail says... So...
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire well there is also just more rumors and gossip form that guy and guliani. What is there to even refute
How fast things can go from calm to oh Fโk
So if he was right youโd never no, because youโve dismissed him based on his association with Giuliani?
@james j the new working theory is she's going to sell the movie rights
This happens very frequently. That or messenger vs message.
So... Discrediting a source who is a known Russian agent that the Trump administration has designated as such and brought sanctions against is an ad hominem???? So, every discredited witness in court is a personal attack. I didn't realize that you were a pro-Russian Oligarch lover. (Now that is an ad hominem). You see how that works?
@AdvanceManExtraordinaire Iโve dismissed him because
A. More words and gossip
B. Coached by Guliani who is just trumps misinformation campaign agent for trump.
I'm surprised you guys aren't talking about the EX-CEO of overstock.com?ยฟ
That guy is nuts
So there's a threshold of not talking about people that are nuts?!?
I listened to an interview with him. He lived in China for awhile . Said he like it
I didn't realize that..
Believing what they say is another thing
I was thinking more along the lines of making fun of...
Whatever.
..
Who is being made fun of
I think these people sit around brainstorming stupid shit to see if people will believe it.@james j
Holy s*** they believe this b*******... Let's see if they believe this other b*******....@james j
He's having his 15 minutes of fame but there's no other form of validation for the claims he is making which are becoming more wild the more attention he receives. None of which have been confirmed after the fact.
And on it goes.
โBiden is a known Chinese agent. Therefore, everything that comes out of his mouth is false and has been coached by the CCP.โ I would call this an ad hominem. Address the content of his message, not the character.
By long I mean November 5th or 6th..
Perhaps before that
The s***'s just way too outlandish...
Is he a known Chinese agent identified by the treasury department? @AdvanceManExtraordinaire
@james j what does Kraken actually have to do with anything? Who came up with that shit.
Itโs like. Release the kraken!!!! A giant sea monster capable of destroying anything and everything in its path. Total destruction.
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