@RobertGrulerEsq Having a friendly debate with a fellow non-lawyer friend about the cases being brought up and their interpretation of the law. A lot of the state laws say 'shall' which I looked up in a legal dictionary to essentially mean 'must'. My friend is involved in a lot of contract law and feels that 'shall' can be equally interpreted as 'may'. In terms of these state laws regarding elections, how would you interpret 'shall'?

When there's women around that's when you stop behaving

Taxes are legal theft

If you apply the legal definition of theft, yes, but that would be somewhat redundant. The non legal definition of theft boils down to taking property without consent

If you think about income taxes, especially when applied to wage labor, the implication is that the government owns you

Your life ~ your labor

Sure if there's no consent

I assume you're talking about the idea that capitalists steal from workers by taking excess value

To wage labor?

I'm not getting how that is theft though

The worker agrees to the terms of the trade, their labor for X dollars. There's a contract recording the agreement

Well theft as I understand it is defined by a lack of consent. When there's a contract recording consent by all parties that's a difficult claim to make

Again, I'm not seeing how trade = theft

Even if one party benefits more than the other

As long as everyone agrees to the trade, it's not theft

A form of involuntary trade, which is another way of saying theft

I don't know, how was I manipulated

How is it the employers fault that you face starvation? That's a consequence implemented by nature. Going to jail or being shot by the police is a consequence implemented by people, not nature

Your argument is like saying it's okay to rob people because if you don't you might starve. The truth is you have other options, like finding a job, or starting your own business, or asking for charity. The fact that nature requires you to gather resources to survive doesn't justify forcing people to give you those resources

For these 'laches' dismissals, does laches imply the crime/harm actually occured?

Or does it mean the remedy is too extreme so the court didnt even consider whether or not it actually happened

Any of them; the PA case for example

Yeah I get that part

Is the court saying "yes this happened but you waited too long" or is it saying "you waited too long so we're not even going to look at it"

Does that mean they were correct about the process being illegal

Im just using that as an example for laches in general

Gotcha

So generally when there is a dismissal for laches the merit is sound

Yeah I just feel like if the case was fundamentally flawed the court would dismiss based on the facts/law rather than laches but I dont know a lot about it

The district court in PA ruled on the merits and suspended certification and then the SC dismissed for laches without any comments on the merits

Crowder did a video like that too. He put out a bunch of low caliber rifles painted black and high caliber rifles, AR's etc painted pink and people pointed at the black ones and were like oh that's an assault rifle that has to be banned for sure

lol i'm an ancap don't get me started on the state

"Guns should be banned....except for the police enforcing the ban"

or the commies that want the police eliminated entirely...who is going to enforce your socialism then

state owned
ancap

pick one

can't have useless eaters

Speaking of bombing, giuliani is carpet bombing the judicial system on monday

Yeah the courts don't seem to think the constitution is important enough to rule on so I'm not sure what the point is

I expect more laches

A lot of history prior to the modern era was written by wealthy merchants and aristocrats that did their best to avoid the peasants as much as possible

Sol people have an idyllic view of those times

Lin wood is either a lunatic or a genius

We'll see

Paul Johnson has a great book on Marx' personal life

He really was a scummy individual

When Marx' best friend Engles told him that his wife died his response was essentially 'dang that sucks bro...by the way send me some money and hurry up about it'

He knocked his maid up

The one that he paid $0 per hour

Forcing this corrupt system to expose itself is a win

The question is whether or not the public will do anything about it

The thing people don't realize, especially people upset about whats been happening, is that our system has ALWAYS been this bad

But no one was fighting it so no one noticed

Polycentric law

That's the only way around it

Trump believes in the constitution

Perhaps, but there's no one person that can fight the system

The concept of a government of the people requires the people to take responsibility

If you're going to submit to authority then you'll get what authority gives you

Nah if you remove the illegal votes he won

Is counting votes with no chain of custody fraud?

Just because it's not fraud doesn't mean it's legal

Votes that are not legal

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I think we'll find out more on Monday. Giuliani's people are researching but without help from legislatures to issue subpoeanas I think they can only review samples

Like in AZ

Really

That's how you know you're in a 3rd world banana republic, elections are about who's better at cheating

My wife grew up in a country like that and that was literally her opinion. "Why the fuck didn't trump cheat more than them?" 100% serious

They used dominion in my wife's country like 12 years ago and had the same problem

It was a big scandal

Yeah perfect company to bring into swing states

Who is james

OH a deboonker

460,000 votes in georgia that have no chain of custody

not fraud but not legal

Why would we want someone that is a chinese spy and participated in a fraudulent election to call in the military

Not really

Typical corruption

It seems new to Americans but in an overall sense nothing new here

Truth^

Honestly I would prefer secession over trump flipping states and taking the win

Ohhh I know who James is now

He was trolling me the other day

I asked a question about laches, did my best to make it a general question about how the concept applies to the law and he spammed me with @'s about how terrible trump is

It was really weird

Communists aren't people

Fax

Instead of whining about how big of a commie handout people get what Trump should do is arrest the governors screwing their people over with lock downs

Maybe seize their assets and hand them out

States rights ended when the federal government responded to secession with war

the government that was preventing secession

If you can't say no and abstain then you have no rights

Pretty basic logic

Well speak for yourself, I've always been pro secession

Polycentric law and secession are very similar

Sidney powell dropped everything she has if anyone is interested

Its almost 300 pages

https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf

No prob

Its too technical for me