Message from @Abel

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2018-09-13 00:51:56 UTC  

Which is also why I find left and right arbitrary

2018-09-13 00:51:59 UTC  

It's too coarse to be useful.

2018-09-13 00:52:07 UTC  

It's so vague

2018-09-13 00:52:15 UTC  

It kind of is.

2018-09-13 00:52:16 UTC  

It is. And it's not even consistent with time.

2018-09-13 00:52:17 UTC  

@Beemann He literally despises conservatism

2018-09-13 00:52:22 UTC  

I know

2018-09-13 00:52:30 UTC  

But even so, Hitler was considered an authoritarian centrist at best.

2018-09-13 00:52:34 UTC  

not 'Far Right'

2018-09-13 00:52:36 UTC  

He also hates the foundational values of America

2018-09-13 00:52:46 UTC  

Incl free speech

2018-09-13 00:52:51 UTC  

I guess that's why he's "alt" right

2018-09-13 00:53:17 UTC  

The Alt is Latin for "Not Really" :^)

2018-09-13 00:53:25 UTC  

He adopted the racial obsession of the far right

2018-09-13 00:53:26 UTC  

"It's not orange, it's alt-red..."

2018-09-13 00:53:41 UTC  

And socialism from the far left

2018-09-13 00:54:05 UTC  

Is the right specifically racially obsessed?

2018-09-13 00:54:05 UTC  

Racial obsession isn't only a far right thing.

2018-09-13 00:54:10 UTC  

And I believe he wants an arostocracy?

2018-09-13 00:54:20 UTC  

I mean, of course he does.

2018-09-13 00:54:21 UTC  

With a king?

2018-09-13 00:54:28 UTC  

He talks and dresses like a damned aristocrat.

2018-09-13 00:54:32 UTC  

He fancies himself a nobleman.

2018-09-13 00:54:35 UTC  

And that's far right as well

2018-09-13 00:55:02 UTC  

Like that bald hyper capitalist monarchist polish dude

2018-09-13 00:55:12 UTC  

With a bowtie

2018-09-13 00:56:29 UTC  

I don't think the left right divide is entirely useless, its just that america has a different version,

2018-09-13 00:57:04 UTC  

What utility does it have that specific ideological labels don't have and execute better?

2018-09-13 00:57:42 UTC  

Personally, I see it as -
Communism/Marxism far left.
Monarchism/Theocracy far right

2018-09-13 00:57:55 UTC  

That's a false dichotomy though

2018-09-13 00:58:17 UTC  

And that's the thing, either you're sandwiching multiple often conflicting and contradictory ideas into one "side"

2018-09-13 00:58:24 UTC  

Or you're creating a false dichotomy

2018-09-13 00:58:54 UTC  

And you're allowing nutjobs to adopt generic labels instead of having them say what they really think

2018-09-13 00:59:02 UTC  

It helps in categorizing people. Especially in a two party state

2018-09-13 00:59:14 UTC  

Europ isn't that way

2018-09-13 00:59:16 UTC  

See: leftism descending into commie fuckery

2018-09-13 00:59:23 UTC  

But

2018-09-13 00:59:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/489601018263371787/image0.jpg

2018-09-13 00:59:41 UTC  

Larger countries like India or America are

2018-09-13 00:59:41 UTC  

But neither system is based around two ideologies is the thing

2018-09-13 01:00:03 UTC  

Left/right isn't an ideology.