Message from @Abel
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With a king?
He talks and dresses like a damned aristocrat.
He fancies himself a nobleman.
And that's far right as well
Like that bald hyper capitalist monarchist polish dude
With a bowtie
I don't think the left right divide is entirely useless, its just that america has a different version,
What utility does it have that specific ideological labels don't have and execute better?
Personally, I see it as -
Communism/Marxism far left.
Monarchism/Theocracy far right
That's a false dichotomy though
And that's the thing, either you're sandwiching multiple often conflicting and contradictory ideas into one "side"
Or you're creating a false dichotomy
And you're allowing nutjobs to adopt generic labels instead of having them say what they really think
It helps in categorizing people. Especially in a two party state
Europ isn't that way
See: leftism descending into commie fuckery
But
Larger countries like India or America are
But neither system is based around two ideologies is the thing
It's a label for ideological positions
An umbrella term if you will
Real Gamers know this
But it doesn't work
It's a system of values compiled through a spectrum
Right but nobody can name a consistent set of values
Oof has worked its way into my daily vocabulary.
Or plot ideologies consistently as per those sets
It's embarassing, in a way.
So a right wing party is pro traditionalism, constitutionalism, etc
A left wing party would be pro secularism, social programs, etc
Those are non exclusionary
You can be secular, support the constitution, support social programs and value tradition
You can adopt a wide variety of ideologies under one banner without being cornered
And then, the people in the party can say "I'm a constitutionalist", or " I'm a socialist"
Further, what was no child left behind, as poor a plam as it was? And alt right memestate enthusiasts will often advocate a heavy welfare state
That's the thing. The lines are unclear
Aren't alt right people national socialists?
Not all, but altleast the ethnostatists
Some of them might be yes, and a heavy social welfare state is lefty