Message from @Kyle Judkins
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Obliterate the current left entirely.
Adopting ideas the previous left had, in the aftermath of their own train wreck
Faction the right.
It just doesn't seem like a winning strategy
Our current left is just plain unacceptable, holy shit.
your idea of liberal-conservative axsis is flawed.
Yes they are
Why don't really look at it as liberal vs conservative
I look at us Progressive versus conservative
Everything is left of the enlightened centre
I look at it as regressive vs conservative.
Even though the word Progressive might be the wrong word to use
It's a matter of attempt to change versus keep what's working
Forced change.
It's authoritarian vs not authoritarian atm
What is important because I look at conservatives the way you would look at a control
And the progressive in theory should be the variable, and when they push for a small change, we should be able to objectively look back and see if it was worse or better than what we had
I mean by default conservatives vote for the status quo
At least used to
Hey Ginga change your shirt.
Your shirt looks terrible I hate your shirt.
Ginga's shirt SUCKS.
Progress needs to be slow but they don't care. They want to push things through and not care if it destroys everything good.
The meanings of conservative and progressive are contextual af.
I don't feel like either party represents core ideas
Imean the US is probably the most if nto one of the most progressive nations in the world
Like I have no idea why the right-wing has adopted Christian traditionalism as a large part of their platform
So progressive that conservative in the US can be considered very progressive in other countries
What
US conservatives want to **conserve** old liberal society
I mean thats what I meant by keep the status quo
I don't see any issue with Christian traditionalism.
People aren't conservative or progressive. Either your ideology is compatible with the status quo or it isn't.
So long as it's not too authoritarian.
It depends, I see plenty of obstacles
Religion just doesn't have a place in government, especially when it is to decide policy
but if in current sistuation what they have to conserve. its all fucked up.
Religion itself doesn't need to be in government but the moral code from it should.
I would say I definitely lean libertarian
To be honest, it has always felt "progressives" have been progressing towards socialism and communism.