And that's mainly just because I think some people shouldn't breed LMAO

There will always be scarcity. Everyone only has one body.

"who can be more right-wing"

If the right becomes so dominant that the left is no longer a real party, then chances are the "right" will splinter into a new left and right. Example: the number of people who were liberal and are now considered conservative. That rift is still there.

So in reality it would just be people fighting to be moderate

That's the only thing I can hope for

Obliterate the current left entirely.

Adopting ideas the previous left had, in the aftermath of their own train wreck

Faction the right.

It just doesn't seem like a winning strategy

Our current left is just plain unacceptable, holy shit.

your idea of liberal-conservative axsis is flawed.

Yes they are

Why don't really look at it as liberal vs conservative

I look at us Progressive versus conservative

Everything is left of the enlightened centre

I look at it as regressive vs conservative.

Even though the word Progressive might be the wrong word to use

It's a matter of attempt to change versus keep what's working

Forced change.

It's authoritarian vs not authoritarian atm

What is important because I look at conservatives the way you would look at a control

And the progressive in theory should be the variable, and when they push for a small change, we should be able to objectively look back and see if it was worse or better than what we had

I mean by default conservatives vote for the status quo

At least used to

Hey Ginga change your shirt.

Yeah I mean don't get me wrong American politics is so beyond f***** up

Your shirt looks terrible I hate your shirt.

Ginga's shirt SUCKS.

Progress needs to be slow but they don't care. They want to push things through and not care if it destroys everything good.

The meanings of conservative and progressive are contextual af.

I don't feel like either party represents core ideas

Imean the US is probably the most if nto one of the most progressive nations in the world

Like I have no idea why the right-wing has adopted Christian traditionalism as a large part of their platform

So progressive that conservative in the US can be considered very progressive in other countries

What

US conservatives want to **conserve** old liberal society

I mean thats what I meant by keep the status quo

I don't see any issue with Christian traditionalism.

People aren't conservative or progressive. Either your ideology is compatible with the status quo or it isn't.

So long as it's not too authoritarian.

It depends, I see plenty of obstacles