i didnt need gamergate for that

have those fresh in your mind

but it did engage me politcally anyways

I wasn't around for gamergate.

for that? no

Well, 1984 was fiction.

Gamergate is a little more valuable because it really happened.

but to know their tactics? for the alarm bells to ring on certain ocasions? yes

and you'll see it

I'm always a little dubious of people justifying their claims based on fictional material

Oliver Campbell (super inspiring dude)

1984 was fiction, yet the left uses tactics from it like it was their handbook

Even if it's based off reality?

1984 was based of socialism.

It's based off reality, while Gamergate IS reality.

said in 2014 that this was only going to end when violence got into the picture

We saw it. It happened to people.

Lives are still destroyed by it.

IT's still someone's guess or extrapolation

It may be useful, but it's not _evidence_

the reason why 1984 keeps being relevant is simply because its about authoritarianism and authoritarianism will keep rearing its head every time the next crisis pops up

Yeah I'm not trying to equate it to reality but there is a lot to learn from it.

the tactis themselves never change

only the circumstances

I don't really think so; it all hinges on what you think reality is like

If e.g. 1984 seems to reflect reality well, you heed it as a warning

If it seems off the mark, it's not credible

So it's ultimately begging the question

Like, every cyberpunk dystopia is based off of reality

@Grenade123
This is a cautionary tale fiction book compared to real world dictatorships in the same sense that the boy who cried wolf is a cautionary tale for losing trust & how valuable it is

well i can go into history and give you example after example after example

it's grounded in reality

where the same thing happened over and over again

we just havent really seen it in about 65 years or so

it's a pattern that's purposefully metaphorical and fictional in order to make sure that it can be universally appplicable, it's the patterns that matter, not the exemplified dictatorship itself

not at this scale at least

@CreativeRealms 1984's INGSOC is a kenundrum, a product of doublethink, officially it's socialist, but at the same time, despises socialism as the concept, and all it's principles, it has anti socialist policies while calling itself that

Interpreting history is tricky, though

A lot depends on what theory you use to filter it

Satanic panic