Message from @Grenade123

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2018-10-20 19:47:22 UTC  

yeah i know which movie u mean

2018-10-20 19:47:22 UTC  

"I'm right. All of you people are wrong"
"THERE SCRIB GOES AGAIN"

2018-10-20 19:47:32 UTC  

everyone around you tells you it's a lie, so it feels like a faint dream eventually

2018-10-20 19:47:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/503293222106169355/Scrib.png

2018-10-20 19:47:57 UTC  

Only difference is, I have gamergate fresh in my memory. To assure me that there can indeed be thousands of bullshitters to one sane person.

2018-10-20 19:48:06 UTC  

yes

2018-10-20 19:48:18 UTC  

GamerGate was invaluable to knowing the patterns

2018-10-20 19:48:26 UTC  

as well as 1984 itself

2018-10-20 19:48:34 UTC  

i didnt need gamergate for that

2018-10-20 19:48:37 UTC  

have those fresh in your mind

2018-10-20 19:48:46 UTC  

but it did engage me politcally anyways

2018-10-20 19:48:47 UTC  

I wasn't around for gamergate.

2018-10-20 19:48:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/503293528022188052/1440-Mahatma-Gandhi-Quote-First-they-ignore-you-then-they-ridicule-you.png

2018-10-20 19:48:52 UTC  

for that? no

2018-10-20 19:48:55 UTC  

Well, 1984 was fiction.

2018-10-20 19:49:03 UTC  

Gamergate is a little more valuable because it really happened.

2018-10-20 19:49:07 UTC  

but to know their tactics? for the alarm bells to ring on certain ocasions? yes

2018-10-20 19:49:09 UTC  

and you'll see it

2018-10-20 19:49:21 UTC  

I'm always a little dubious of people justifying their claims based on fictional material

2018-10-20 19:49:39 UTC  

Oliver Campbell (super inspiring dude)

2018-10-20 19:49:41 UTC  

1984 was fiction, yet the left uses tactics from it like it was their handbook

2018-10-20 19:49:44 UTC  

Even if it's based off reality?

2018-10-20 19:49:56 UTC  

1984 was based of socialism.

2018-10-20 19:50:00 UTC  

It's based off reality, while Gamergate IS reality.

2018-10-20 19:50:12 UTC  

said in 2014 that this was only going to end when violence got into the picture

2018-10-20 19:50:12 UTC  

We saw it. It happened to people.

2018-10-20 19:50:17 UTC  

Lives are still destroyed by it.

2018-10-20 19:50:18 UTC  

IT's still someone's guess or extrapolation

2018-10-20 19:50:26 UTC  

It may be useful, but it's not _evidence_

2018-10-20 19:50:44 UTC  

the reason why 1984 keeps being relevant is simply because its about authoritarianism and authoritarianism will keep rearing its head every time the next crisis pops up

2018-10-20 19:50:46 UTC  

Yeah I'm not trying to equate it to reality but there is a lot to learn from it.

2018-10-20 19:51:11 UTC  

the tactis themselves never change

2018-10-20 19:51:16 UTC  

only the circumstances

2018-10-20 19:51:39 UTC  

I don't really think so; it all hinges on what you think reality is like

2018-10-20 19:51:50 UTC  

If e.g. 1984 seems to reflect reality well, you heed it as a warning

2018-10-20 19:51:58 UTC  

If it seems off the mark, it's not credible

2018-10-20 19:52:05 UTC  

So it's ultimately begging the question

2018-10-20 19:52:31 UTC  

Like, every cyberpunk dystopia is based off of reality

2018-10-20 19:52:36 UTC  

@Grenade123
This is a cautionary tale fiction book compared to real world dictatorships in the same sense that the boy who cried wolf is a cautionary tale for losing trust & how valuable it is

2018-10-20 19:52:39 UTC  

well i can go into history and give you example after example after example

2018-10-20 19:52:40 UTC  

it's grounded in reality