>going to a public bathroom <:disgusteng:595338918044500041>

when the need is dire ...

honestly tho, I sometimes use the men's room

they're usually tidier

cause you got the women who don't wanna sit on the seat, and they can't piss normally and make a mess

which is just domino effect, because now even fewer will sit, because it's covered in piss

IDK why women are tidy about everything other than the fucking public toilet

boggles the mind

Whenever I've had to use a public womens toilet they've allways been squeky clean.

compared to the mens room which has shit stains and piss all over it, or in some unfortunate cases a pool of urine on the floor... thank you drunktards

"The public bathroom compass"

Private
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Public

It's not a public bathroom unless it's missing a piece of the wall tiling

Or the wall itself.

Ironically, public bathrooms become very clean in no time when people have to pay for entry. It's almost as if capitalism solves problems.

you mean they use the money from the payment to pay for more regular cleaning?

Of course, that's how we did it in our big cities

There are still many dirty public bathrooms, but those tend to not be paid for by the visitors themselves

so the point is not 'capitalism' (wtf does that even mean here) , its spending more money on cleaning

No, the point is indeed capitalism

if they spent more money on more regual cleaning then they would be cleaner, wether that money comes from the users or the tax payers as a whole does not matter

Public bathrooms can be funded by taxpayer money or by the users directly. If it's funded by taxpayer money then they have no incentive to keep them particularly clean and functional. But if they work like any other private enterprise then they have every incentive to maintain them.

```If it's funded by taxpayer money then they have no incentive to keep them particularly clean and functional.``` but they do if the pay for them at point of use because? I guess I dont think like the average person here, but you always pay for public toilets, just not directly if they are 'free' , keeping clean is not difficult, it just requires more than two brain cells.

It's about incentive. Tax payer money removes the incentive to maintain a high standard

I am of the opinion that paid at use toilets are cleaner because they get more cleaning, not because the users are more carefull of using them because they 'invested' in it or something

I hope you're aware that you're arguing from the socialist perspective?

And?

Social always fails

if the average toilet user is too stupid to think about public free toilets, then they're too stupid to think about 'investment perspective'

Lmao.

Socialism always fails => socialist perspective always bad.

That's retarded.

Public bathrooms are no different than any other enterprise. There's no reason why they don't succeed and fail for the same reasons as all others.

Rethink your statement.

I have thought about it, I'm a staunch proponent of capitalism.

but they do succeed, **well maintained** free public bathrooms are hugely succesfull,

and so am I, that does not mean I see value in free public bathrooms

Every example that I've seen so far of public bathrooms contradicts what you're saying

Maybe it's just that you live in and visit only shitholes.

The tax funded ones tend to be really bad on average, and the moment they get paid for directly by the customers like any other service, they immediately become clean and functional.

A country that doesn't want shit and piss on the streets funds public toilets and makes them nice.