and don't go pointing at SJW's, cuz they want to sacrifice other people, for the good of themselves/anotehr group

A societal framework without capital would be pretty ineffectual, yeah.

I only have Saturdays off work so I'll have to make that my Sabbath

The government doesn’t take taxes, so where does it get its resources to function? War. The nation is in a constant cycle of warfare simply to destroy and subjugate in order to collect resources, be it new citizens or general scrap to fuel themselves.

So, self-sacrifice is the primary quality by which you gauge human virtue, Wol? That's certainly interesting.

A societal framework without capital only works if you have replicators 😁

What other qualities would you define as virtuous I'm just curious

haven't properly thought that through, but it would be what i'd go on for the time being

You don't have right to sacrifice others, all you can do is sacrifice yourself

@I AM ERROR what if you have FTL, you wouldn’t need replicators

You could fly anywhere and take anything from anyone.

With enough effort.

thats what good parents do for example,

They'll sacrifice their time, energy, money and effort that they earned, to give to their children so they can make their choices in life

Specifying strangers means you're basically just measuring a human's level of empathy with the entire human race.

Still need effort for that, replicators just give you stuff 😁

Yes but

Plus what do you do when youve took all the stuff

Replicators have to have some mass to form into what you want to form

well i'd specify strangers as a virtue, because sacrificing yourself for your own gains is life, not virtue

It can’t just come out of nowhere without violating the law of conservation of matter

A good parent sacrifices for the opposite of a stranger, they're providing for their blood continuation.

The fruit of their own loins.

yes but thats life

not virtue

You're not virtueous for doing what you're supposed to do

Virtue is going above and beyond the regular.

Physics is just a social construct 😝

Imagine

A united humanity

But you just said parenting was the virtue you're talking about, Wol.

You're really confusing me.

Only for humanity to become the bad guy.

As an example of what self-sacrifice is

Are you not supposed to sacrifice for a stranger?

this is such a gift to the republicans and trump

Then why use it as a moral measurement?

when was the last time the news talked about russia?

supposed to? i wouldn't know, but i'd say that if you do it, you're a virtuous person

good point, has been a while since anyone even mentioned the investigation

A while, which is I suppose a small bandaid for their credibility.

yup