Message from @Bookworm

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2018-10-26 13:24:00 UTC  

Imagine a society without taxes. How would it work?

2018-10-26 13:24:00 UTC  

Yes, but we were talking about knowledge and understanding, not the other virtues.

2018-10-26 13:24:12 UTC  

Anarchy

2018-10-26 13:24:14 UTC  

I am the state your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, the state your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

2018-10-26 13:24:19 UTC  

You measure them by how much of themselves they're willing to sacrifice for the good of strangers

2018-10-26 13:24:28 UTC  

I have an idea of a society without taxes and man is it bleak

2018-10-26 13:24:51 UTC  

Well, halfthink is now god. All hail.

2018-10-26 13:24:58 UTC  

and don't go pointing at SJW's, cuz they want to sacrifice other people, for the good of themselves/anotehr group

2018-10-26 13:25:05 UTC  

A societal framework without capital would be pretty ineffectual, yeah.

2018-10-26 13:25:21 UTC  

I only have Saturdays off work so I'll have to make that my Sabbath

2018-10-26 13:25:36 UTC  

The government doesn’t take taxes, so where does it get its resources to function? War. The nation is in a constant cycle of warfare simply to destroy and subjugate in order to collect resources, be it new citizens or general scrap to fuel themselves.

2018-10-26 13:25:42 UTC  

So, self-sacrifice is the primary quality by which you gauge human virtue, Wol? That's certainly interesting.

2018-10-26 13:26:09 UTC  

A societal framework without capital only works if you have replicators 😁

2018-10-26 13:26:13 UTC  

What other qualities would you define as virtuous I'm just curious

2018-10-26 13:26:21 UTC  

haven't properly thought that through, but it would be what i'd go on for the time being

2018-10-26 13:26:34 UTC  

You don't have right to sacrifice others, all you can do is sacrifice yourself

2018-10-26 13:26:38 UTC  

@I AM ERROR what if you have FTL, you wouldn’t need replicators

2018-10-26 13:26:54 UTC  

You could fly anywhere and take anything from anyone.

2018-10-26 13:26:57 UTC  

With enough effort.

2018-10-26 13:27:05 UTC  

thats what good parents do for example,

They'll sacrifice their time, energy, money and effort that they earned, to give to their children so they can make their choices in life

2018-10-26 13:27:14 UTC  

Specifying strangers means you're basically just measuring a human's level of empathy with the entire human race.

2018-10-26 13:27:26 UTC  

Still need effort for that, replicators just give you stuff 😁

2018-10-26 13:27:43 UTC  

Yes but

2018-10-26 13:27:47 UTC  

Plus what do you do when youve took all the stuff

2018-10-26 13:27:51 UTC  

Replicators have to have some mass to form into what you want to form

2018-10-26 13:27:55 UTC  

well i'd specify strangers as a virtue, because sacrificing yourself for your own gains is life, not virtue

2018-10-26 13:28:09 UTC  

It can’t just come out of nowhere without violating the law of conservation of matter

2018-10-26 13:28:09 UTC  

A good parent sacrifices for the opposite of a stranger, they're providing for their blood continuation.

2018-10-26 13:28:16 UTC  

The fruit of their own loins.

2018-10-26 13:28:21 UTC  

yes but thats life

2018-10-26 13:28:22 UTC  

not virtue

2018-10-26 13:28:34 UTC  

You're not virtueous for doing what you're supposed to do

2018-10-26 13:28:42 UTC  

Virtue is going above and beyond the regular.

2018-10-26 13:28:42 UTC  

Physics is just a social construct 😝

2018-10-26 13:28:42 UTC  

Imagine

2018-10-26 13:28:49 UTC  

A united humanity

2018-10-26 13:28:49 UTC  

But you just said parenting was the virtue you're talking about, Wol.

2018-10-26 13:28:53 UTC  

You're really confusing me.

2018-10-26 13:28:58 UTC  

Only for humanity to become the bad guy.

2018-10-26 13:29:08 UTC  

As an example of what self-sacrifice is

2018-10-26 13:29:10 UTC  

Are you not supposed to sacrifice for a stranger?