Message from @Beemann
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Socialism lead to the same conclusion though
An individual is not the public.
And when he was about to die he wanted Germany to be utterly destroyed so that it would never recover
If you disagreed with Stalin you got disappeared
The public is a number of individuals
whay
We see the same cult of personality happening in China now as Xi consolidates his power
The state exists to weigh the power of individuals against each bother, and the public against individuals. Avoid mob rule and negation of rights
As Xi "becomes" China, China completes their mutation from a possibly nascent Communist state to pure fascism.
China was never Communist, just Socialist
Mao did believe in Marx. He, like Stalin, thought extreme measures were justifiable.
China is where evil won permanently.
Right, and you can be a communist leader of a socialist country
Now China isn;t even pretending to be working toward the communist paradise
But China was not Marx' end state
They've embraced capitalism
Capitalism with 1984
It's an odd marriage.
Marx had no thought of China. Not in a million years. But Mao did give thought to Marx.
they've embraced slavery is what they have done.
It's important to make this distinction in an era where people are trying to sanitize "socialism"
America has embraced it too.
USSR and China were socialist states
but when you have a large chunk of the worlds population all in one place, you can afford to treat people like pests because they almost are pests to each-other at that point.
i agree
Imagine chinese coming to your country and buying houses you can't possibly afford. o:
Pure capitalism is a horrible idea as is pure socialism
Botching supply and demand.
yes
It's healthy to find elements of both where appropriate
That depends on what "capitalism" means to you
whay
But with clear liberalist principles ruling it all
I find it seems to mean whatever is convenient in the conversation at hand
Let's talk my favorite subject. Health care. Is pure capitalism a good thing for health care?
Or should we move this to debate?
Again, define "pure capitalism"
what is happening
hmm
We aren't in pure capitalism at the moment, that's for damned sure.