Message from @Xombii
Discord ID: 505788571534360576
China was never Communist, just Socialist
Mao did believe in Marx. He, like Stalin, thought extreme measures were justifiable.
China is where evil won permanently.
Right, and you can be a communist leader of a socialist country
Now China isn;t even pretending to be working toward the communist paradise
But China was not Marx' end state
They've embraced capitalism
Capitalism with 1984
It's an odd marriage.
Marx had no thought of China. Not in a million years. But Mao did give thought to Marx.
they've embraced slavery is what they have done.
But someone believing in a different end goal does not change the function of the state
It's important to make this distinction in an era where people are trying to sanitize "socialism"
America has embraced it too.
USSR and China were socialist states
but when you have a large chunk of the worlds population all in one place, you can afford to treat people like pests because they almost are pests to each-other at that point.
i agree
Imagine chinese coming to your country and buying houses you can't possibly afford. o:
Pure capitalism is a horrible idea as is pure socialism
Botching supply and demand.
It's healthy to find elements of both where appropriate
That depends on what "capitalism" means to you
whay
But with clear liberalist principles ruling it all
I find it seems to mean whatever is convenient in the conversation at hand
Let's talk my favorite subject. Health care. Is pure capitalism a good thing for health care?
Or should we move this to debate?
Again, define "pure capitalism"
what is happening
hmm
We aren't in pure capitalism at the moment, that's for damned sure.
I'm moving a debate where it belongs
Capitalism: an economic system built around the aquisition and use of material goods, or capital, for personal gain.
This current system in america is corporatism.
Inaccurately titled crony capitalism or vampire capitalism.
Just call it corporatism.
That is capitalism in its purest form
The diffusion of responsibility through networks of plausibly deniable personal relationships to produce a structure which appears to cherish its dysfunctions, and the privileged place it holds in the law.
that ain't capitalism.