And that requires 1 of 2 things

Make welfare increasingly difficult to get or completely rid ourselves of it entirely

I think fixing a broken country is impossible

That wouldn't stop it. America is just great and people would come here regardless of welfare

it was a tounge in cheek comment

if we were to go in and fix it, that would just piss them off and cause more issues in the long run

But it would incentivize integration and legal status over illegal status

It would be a step in the right direction

We'd have to either make America suck more than their countries, make their countries better, or KILL THEM. That's why the only thing we CAN do is repel them and hopefully encourage them to fix their own countries

I dont think its immigration that's the issue

Then what have we been talking about?

I think it's more the incentive to not integrate that drives more illegal immigration

Immigration and illegal immigration both stem from the desire to come to America

The incentive to not integrate drives illegal immigration...

What? That's actually nonsense

Becuase if your incentivized to integrate your more likely to legalize yourself

People don't go to places just because they don't have to integrate.

But maybe I'm just ignorant

They can not integrate to a new culture in their own countries

integeration has nothing to do with it

and the end of the day its resources

The whole point is to be in a better country for better economic and safety issues

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Resources

people see america has more resources to use, they want a slice of the pie

thats all it is.

Then we could never solve immigration

people will constantly try and sneak in and take benefit of it, even if their country was okay.

exactly.

the best you can do is filter it.

While the fact that we have "Little Mexico"s sounds good to Mexican Illegals, they'd come regardless because America has resources

Yeah that's what we've been saying

There's no curing immigration

Unless you make other countries where immigrants come from 1st world and prosperous

Maybe I am to much of an optimist but I think there is solutions

Unless you find immigration as an issue

Cause making America worse than them and killing them are bad options.

i don't think making other counteries prosperous is ever going to work with the current system

Explain to me what other options to cure immigration there are

for one country to prosper, other counteries have to lose out.

There are 2 parts to this cost benefit calculation. What country is better for me to live in? America, or home country?