We'd have to either make America suck more than their countries, make their countries better, or KILL THEM. That's why the only thing we CAN do is repel them and hopefully encourage them to fix their own countries

I dont think its immigration that's the issue

Then what have we been talking about?

I think it's more the incentive to not integrate that drives more illegal immigration

Immigration and illegal immigration both stem from the desire to come to America

The incentive to not integrate drives illegal immigration...

What? That's actually nonsense

Becuase if your incentivized to integrate your more likely to legalize yourself

People don't go to places just because they don't have to integrate.

But maybe I'm just ignorant

They can not integrate to a new culture in their own countries

integeration has nothing to do with it

and the end of the day its resources

The whole point is to be in a better country for better economic and safety issues

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Resources

people see america has more resources to use, they want a slice of the pie

thats all it is.

Then we could never solve immigration

people will constantly try and sneak in and take benefit of it, even if their country was okay.

exactly.

the best you can do is filter it.

While the fact that we have "Little Mexico"s sounds good to Mexican Illegals, they'd come regardless because America has resources

Yeah that's what we've been saying

There's no curing immigration

Unless you make other countries where immigrants come from 1st world and prosperous

Maybe I am to much of an optimist but I think there is solutions

Unless you find immigration as an issue

Cause making America worse than them and killing them are bad options.

i don't think making other counteries prosperous is ever going to work with the current system

Explain to me what other options to cure immigration there are

for one country to prosper, other counteries have to lose out.

There are 2 parts to this cost benefit calculation. What country is better for me to live in? America, or home country?

You balance those scales

You can tip it in favor of staying in their country by either, Making America worse than theirs

The road to ruin is paved with good intentions. We will be taken advantage of to the extent that we tolerate it. The strategy is to use our kindness and good will against us.

There is a 3rd part, how much of a benefit do I acquire

or Making theirs better than America, or at least good enough to not be worth the hasstle

No dude, that's not a 3rd part

The best way to make countries around you prosperous is to make the people rebuild their country rather than running to yours

That's within the balancing act of the 2 parts