!agree

didn't a bomb also get sent to the white house?

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1054900366305837056

how legit is this?

sorry if this is wrong place for it

they probably just did keyword searches

you guys actually have a law preventing you from removing people who enter ilegally?

what you do when countries decides to sends its citzens your way as an invasion?

so their governments are actually doing it?

i thought it was more smaller groups on teh ground advocating that stuff. i know i've met some africans over here who have told me as much.

enter, don't assamilate, outbreed.

ah

yeah, the soft power benefits really aren't worth it

do both

really? deportation is a 1 off cost vs life time of unknown expenses

health, schools, utitlities, lost wages to people citzens who could do the job at a higher wage and contribute more

i'd say its plausible

and, if you secure your border they wouldn't be let back in after deportation

you acn screen them at the border and deny entry

anyone arleady deported should be on record

so, how do you know how many ilegals are in your country?

wouldn't tehy need to be documented to really get an accurate tally?

yeah, i'm thinking if they would underestimate how many people so people don't get too uppity about it

build the wall 😛

so, how do you shutdown the border when you have a horde of people willing to violently force their way in?

wouldn't it just be securing the border, which is what should have already been done?

hmmmmm

all those inhumane crowd controll tools would do the trick

that would cause massive amounts of political instability

sometimes, the cost is worth it to the stability of the country

wouldn't that also entitle them to government aid?

how would it hurt legal imigants when the reputation is fuck people who enter ilegally?

most people around the world dont' like ilegal immigrants, that seems like a none issue to me

conflating ilegals with legals seems rather dishonest

i don't think actual citzens will care much for government morale grand standing

yeah, and those citzens that would be immigrants won't give a fuck about their own government morale grand standing over none-issues

they'll look up the laws, and go for it if it looks worth it

or if they have good oppertunities

isloationism to what degree?

securing your borders and only letting in skilled migrants will only be a net benefit

er, the global backlash was more the destruction of their legal system and generally anti-democratic moves wasn't it?

you're fault here is assuming their immigration system is the result of the backlash

most of the backlash i've seen is more about them moving more towards a dictator system?

not letting every idiot walk accross your border would cause the world to sanction you?

you can see why israel behaves the way it does with its gaza border huh

they will if they fear for their lives.

just use rubber coated bullets

eh, if they act violently shoot em

if they're peacefull just let them set up camp and ignore them and let mexico deal with the slum

what exactly is the problem though?

if its their country, they should go back and fix their country

i asked before, what is the issue?

... whats the issue?

the immigration act isn't the cause of illegal immigration though

right.. but why are these people even trying to enter the country illegally in teh first place?

otherwise you're suggestion is treating the symptons not the cause.

also codes, weren't you just pushing back on people advocating some of those positions?

well, debating if they're were the best option

i say we fix the counteries, it just feels wrong letting those places be a complete mess when we have the power to forcefully fix it, ya know?

it was a tounge in cheek comment

if we were to go in and fix it, that would just piss them off and cause more issues in the long run

integeration has nothing to do with it

and the end of the day its resources

people see america has more resources to use, they want a slice of the pie

thats all it is.

people will constantly try and sneak in and take benefit of it, even if their country was okay.

exactly.

the best you can do is filter it.

i don't think making other counteries prosperous is ever going to work with the current system

for one country to prosper, other counteries have to lose out.

i'm in the EU, so both for me.

legal low skilled migration is bad as well

pretty much, we should just pick and chose people who will be a benefit to our country.

i think origin is important.

incompatible cutlures, and counteries with crap or fradulent education systems are a problem as well

oh right, brain drain is a problem too.

a lot of developing counteries suffer from it because we suck up all their talent

that would be good, but i don't think people or counteries would be happy about that

if it was forced

personally i think the better option would be to use standard legal imigration systems atm, which are pretty strict. and have a visa-free option for high skilled workers amongst 1st world counteries.

codes, the problem is trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed.

it's in our nature to explore at the very least

even if we fixed all the problems and shared resources around the world equallym people would still want to immigrate just to be adventurous

the only problem i have with a border wall / fence is the impact on wildlife

looking after the planets eco system is pretty important for our survival though

yeah i saw it, look like it'd work

dog wall?

hmm maybe

oh, i thought that was a fence that'd let the dingos through

with the fence though, i think it'd be neat if we had gates accross it to allow wildlife to cross if there's any in the area, but close them if there's hordes of ilegals trying to use them as a point of entry

i don't actually know what wild life is along the border

ah

i was thinking in terms of larger mamals potentially being cut off from resources /fighting over smaller land

yellow stone is interesting with what happened to the eco system their after they re-inroduced wolves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmkUfKB7VoI

direct video link

they're screaming trump is a white supremecists during a moment of scilences for victims of a person who hates trump?

... never let a tradegy go to waste i suppose

oh yeah marsha black