Message from @DrWittMDPhD

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2018-10-30 06:44:05 UTC  

4 either deport or legalize the ones already here

2018-10-30 06:44:07 UTC  

right.. but why are these people even trying to enter the country illegally in teh first place?

2018-10-30 06:44:18 UTC  

otherwise you're suggestion is treating the symptons not the cause.

2018-10-30 06:44:30 UTC  

Which is what we're doing

2018-10-30 06:44:37 UTC  

Because treating the symptoms

2018-10-30 06:44:43 UTC  

Is the only way to deal with immigration

2018-10-30 06:44:59 UTC  

also codes, weren't you just pushing back on people advocating some of those positions?

2018-10-30 06:45:00 UTC  

Unless you are thinking about star trek utopias wher ethe globe is all 1st world

2018-10-30 06:45:35 UTC  

I was not pushing back

2018-10-30 06:45:48 UTC  

well, debating if they're were the best option

2018-10-30 06:45:51 UTC  

I was questioning for the sake of furthering my understanding

2018-10-30 06:46:08 UTC  

I'm not all knowing

2018-10-30 06:46:09 UTC  

Yeah. The only way to "Treat the disease of immigration" is to stop people from wanting to immigrate. Either fix their countries, make our country less appealing, or kill them so there aren't people that want to come here

2018-10-30 06:46:28 UTC  

I think that's the wrong solution

2018-10-30 06:46:39 UTC  

The only course of action is to reinforce our ability to repel illegals, like walls, more border patrol, etc

2018-10-30 06:46:51 UTC  

We need to decentivise people from coming here

2018-10-30 06:47:06 UTC  

i say we fix the counteries, it just feels wrong letting those places be a complete mess when we have the power to forcefully fix it, ya know?

2018-10-30 06:47:07 UTC  

And that requires 1 of 2 things

2018-10-30 06:47:45 UTC  

Make welfare increasingly difficult to get or completely rid ourselves of it entirely

2018-10-30 06:48:13 UTC  

I think fixing a broken country is impossible

2018-10-30 06:48:22 UTC  

That wouldn't stop it. America is just great and people would come here regardless of welfare

2018-10-30 06:48:23 UTC  

it was a tounge in cheek comment

2018-10-30 06:48:43 UTC  

if we were to go in and fix it, that would just piss them off and cause more issues in the long run

2018-10-30 06:49:02 UTC  

But it would incentivize integration and legal status over illegal status

2018-10-30 06:49:15 UTC  

It would be a step in the right direction

2018-10-30 06:49:17 UTC  

We'd have to either make America suck more than their countries, make their countries better, or KILL THEM. That's why the only thing we CAN do is repel them and hopefully encourage them to fix their own countries

2018-10-30 06:50:15 UTC  

I dont think its immigration that's the issue

2018-10-30 06:50:37 UTC  

Then what have we been talking about?

2018-10-30 06:50:45 UTC  

I think it's more the incentive to not integrate that drives more illegal immigration

2018-10-30 06:50:47 UTC  

Immigration and illegal immigration both stem from the desire to come to America

2018-10-30 06:51:13 UTC  

The incentive to not integrate drives illegal immigration...

2018-10-30 06:51:18 UTC  

What? That's actually nonsense

2018-10-30 06:51:27 UTC  

Becuase if your incentivized to integrate your more likely to legalize yourself

2018-10-30 06:51:37 UTC  

People don't go to places just because they don't have to integrate.

2018-10-30 06:51:44 UTC  

But maybe I'm just ignorant

2018-10-30 06:51:49 UTC  

They can not integrate to a new culture in their own countries

2018-10-30 06:52:01 UTC  

integeration has nothing to do with it

2018-10-30 06:52:05 UTC  

and the end of the day its resources

2018-10-30 06:52:06 UTC  

The whole point is to be in a better country for better economic and safety issues

2018-10-30 06:52:09 UTC  

^

2018-10-30 06:52:12 UTC  

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