But maybe I'm just ignorant

They can not integrate to a new culture in their own countries

integeration has nothing to do with it

and the end of the day its resources

The whole point is to be in a better country for better economic and safety issues

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Resources

people see america has more resources to use, they want a slice of the pie

thats all it is.

Then we could never solve immigration

people will constantly try and sneak in and take benefit of it, even if their country was okay.

exactly.

the best you can do is filter it.

While the fact that we have "Little Mexico"s sounds good to Mexican Illegals, they'd come regardless because America has resources

Yeah that's what we've been saying

There's no curing immigration

Unless you make other countries where immigrants come from 1st world and prosperous

Maybe I am to much of an optimist but I think there is solutions

Unless you find immigration as an issue

Cause making America worse than them and killing them are bad options.

i don't think making other counteries prosperous is ever going to work with the current system

Explain to me what other options to cure immigration there are

for one country to prosper, other counteries have to lose out.

There are 2 parts to this cost benefit calculation. What country is better for me to live in? America, or home country?

You balance those scales

You can tip it in favor of staying in their country by either, Making America worse than theirs

The road to ruin is paved with good intentions. We will be taken advantage of to the extent that we tolerate it. The strategy is to use our kindness and good will against us.

There is a 3rd part, how much of a benefit do I acquire

or Making theirs better than America, or at least good enough to not be worth the hasstle

No dude, that's not a 3rd part

The best way to make countries around you prosperous is to make the people rebuild their country rather than running to yours

That's within the balancing act of the 2 parts

I guess that's true

The only 3rd solution to stop immigration is to wipe this calculation off the face of the earth by including them here, so they don;t need to be citizens, or killing them so there aren't people to even want to come here

So I guess there are only 4 options

America worse, Native Country better, Open Borders, Kill everyone

See why you can't cure immigration?

All those options suck, or are hard to do

The only one that is morally good is fix their countries

And that takes a long time

Which is why we deflect illegals and deal with symptoms as we slowly try to pressure them to get better