Message from @Jen
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An argument doesn't have to be angry. A discussion is not as confrontational as an argument where you argue points and counter-points. A debate is too formal.
Send money to gab?
Both sides are presenting their ideas and going back and forth about them. A discussion can have disagreement without it being an arguement.
cant
JDM, being late to the party. Or having Tim be angry at him
it's the whole "It's not my job to educate you" "Go read all of Karl Marx works before you ever even think of criticizing marxist theory" "I don't want to talk about this right now (or ever)" or flat out ghosting.
Discussion is too general.
holy shit that annoys me to no end
@>_ in general, "read marx" is a pretty good argument, because he's covered almost all of the common talking points
They expect you to go and learn their position
*bring them fire*
"I discussed this with him" could mean any number of things, you have no idea if it was just "hey I like cats" "yeah I like cats too" or whatever.
iron law of oligarchy 😦
why would I address an argument that's been addressed 100 years ago?
I mean they can't defend their positions themselves.
The issue is, if you make a claim, its on you to provide your bases
rip why yall trolling my boi V
Because if you can't defend your positions than really how deeply do you believe in them.
If you argued with someone, you know that the two of you had very different views on something and tried to convince each other of things.
@GingaBomber the bases is "marx proved this" @>_ the defense is "marx proved this"
I mean the burden of proof is on the person making the claim
And marx said millions of things
I don't have to prove the pythagorean theorem when I'm doing trigonometry homework, because it's already been proved
If I ask someone what they believe and then ask why they think that I expect a response of some sort. What i dont expect is to have a book thrown in my face and as they run away screaming "READ NIGGA"
Its like when nazis basically post a dozen links and say, just read them and you will understand
If you can't defend your position without giving required read, you are either lazy (which happens) or don't understand the argument enough to repeat it nor truly understand it.
"Marx proved this"
Only he didn't
^
Except polticis isnt math, there is no one truth like math
@Grenade123 that's decently accurate
the issue with a lot of you people is that you think its genuinly about ideas and certain things being right, when in reality its closer to a religious war
who dares to summon the mighty l0de ray dio
@Grenade123 Most people will just disconnect at that point I've found
Which also means you are unable to properly prove it wrong
Oh shit, it's l0de
yes hello
l0de here
I love to argue ideas and they usually just shut down
It’s like when the left says “It’s not my job to educste you”