so you don't get weak shits that snowflake about everything

Add a point about personal responsibility>victimhood somewhere in there

Yeah

discipline will give you responsibility

it teaches you to control yourself, and do what must be done

as opposed to sitting on the floor crying for someone to fix your things

because of a lack of dicipline and a generation without a father they keep it going the way it is .

because its all they know

i wanted to ask because im having trouble to find the source. does anyone have the source for the fivethirtyeight article saying how unaccurate they believe their predicitons to be for one or both of the congress races?

We can't have you being edgy on google(tm)

when is Midterms ?

its not lack of discipline

i dono if i would find them inextricably intertwined, just mearly related @Dr.Wol

hehe edgy intertwined word

Lol

you edgelord you

I wouldn't say they're intertwined either,

they definately can increase positive influence

responsibility and discipline don't always coexist, and building either up is important

for some people responsibility has to come first

Ready to red pill in exchange for good arguments.

otherwise discipline, even if practiced repeatedly, will have no appeal or long term merit

@Kali Yuga red pill me

the point of discipline is to teach you to roll with things, even if you don't wanna

Its a perfect breeding ground for becoming responsible

"We don't wanna do it, but we have to, so lets get it over with"

im only saying this because im one of those dumb highly-open and neurotic people and i have to put responsibility before discipline, discipline is like a stupid buzzword for me without having established responsibility first

@Dr.Wol just teach kids to reason and think long term and integrate and that will com with it

You definitely can't be responsible and undisciplined

isn't enough ttv, cuz ultimately you can reason anything

ive been disciplined af and it only made me more depressed because i was told repeatedly i'd be happy if i was simply disciplined but the larger picture wasn't there so i became more nihilistic, and if i could put what that lacking was it was a core understanding of individual responsibility

@Existence is identity ok

I'm a nazi now apparently

Sigh

arent we all?

But i mainly red pill on economics. Some politics and psychology comes in to.

discipline isn't there to make you happy, its to teach you to stay in control

its up to you to find out what makes you happy

i dont even mean happy

i mean any form of meaning in life

It hurts me to hear Tim make uneducated econ arguments

@Dr.Wol brb ill refute that in a sec

and otto, Discipline is less of a trait to make you happy and more of a trait to avoid unhappiness. you can avoid unhappiness through discipline but you still need someone else in your life to tip yourself toward happiness

same thing really, its up to you to find your meaning of life, others can only offer you advice/ideas

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