the idea of order is one tennant sure, thats not bad @Dr.Wol

So how do you fix that?

im not here to fix it im here to point out that problem beeman

Pound out some superchats

@Ottobon most men where role models now because of the Feminization of men and the lack of fathers in a household its pretty hard to have role models if the feminists are constantly anti man . white man bad . untill Trump came along

Jacko Wathisname Navy Seal guy can help fix it

probably jbp and some other dudes

The memes are here

The solution to the problem is the source of the discussion

Lmfao

Memers are QUICK

lul

hey

no its more than just the idea of order
you get
- Stable households because the father/man can ensure order so discipline is established
- Confidence and inspiration can get other people to join in, creating a community under a strong leader (men are more inspiring)

With this, you create a good environment to have a new generation grow up with those values and be strong enough to carry the torch of society for another generation

so you don't get weak shits that snowflake about everything

Add a point about personal responsibility>victimhood somewhere in there

Yeah

discipline will give you responsibility

it teaches you to control yourself, and do what must be done

as opposed to sitting on the floor crying for someone to fix your things

because of a lack of dicipline and a generation without a father they keep it going the way it is .

because its all they know

i wanted to ask because im having trouble to find the source. does anyone have the source for the fivethirtyeight article saying how unaccurate they believe their predicitons to be for one or both of the congress races?

We can't have you being edgy on google(tm)

when is Midterms ?

its not lack of discipline

i dono if i would find them inextricably intertwined, just mearly related @Dr.Wol

hehe edgy intertwined word

Lol

you edgelord you

I wouldn't say they're intertwined either,

they definately can increase positive influence

responsibility and discipline don't always coexist, and building either up is important

for some people responsibility has to come first

Ready to red pill in exchange for good arguments.

otherwise discipline, even if practiced repeatedly, will have no appeal or long term merit

@Kali Yuga red pill me

the point of discipline is to teach you to roll with things, even if you don't wanna

Its a perfect breeding ground for becoming responsible

"We don't wanna do it, but we have to, so lets get it over with"

im only saying this because im one of those dumb highly-open and neurotic people and i have to put responsibility before discipline, discipline is like a stupid buzzword for me without having established responsibility first

@Dr.Wol just teach kids to reason and think long term and integrate and that will com with it

You definitely can't be responsible and undisciplined

isn't enough ttv, cuz ultimately you can reason anything