Message from @Ottobon

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2018-11-02 20:20:58 UTC  

probably jbp and some other dudes

2018-11-02 20:21:00 UTC  

The memes are here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/508012674509176862/image0.jpg

2018-11-02 20:21:09 UTC  

The solution to the problem is the source of the discussion

2018-11-02 20:21:23 UTC  

Lmfao

2018-11-02 20:21:37 UTC  

Memers are QUICK

2018-11-02 20:21:41 UTC  

lul

2018-11-02 20:21:42 UTC  

hey

2018-11-02 20:21:52 UTC  

no its more than just the idea of order
you get
- Stable households because the father/man can ensure order so discipline is established
- Confidence and inspiration can get other people to join in, creating a community under a strong leader (men are more inspiring)

With this, you create a good environment to have a new generation grow up with those values and be strong enough to carry the torch of society for another generation

2018-11-02 20:22:13 UTC  

so you don't get weak shits that snowflake about everything

2018-11-02 20:22:17 UTC  

Add a point about personal responsibility>victimhood somewhere in there

2018-11-02 20:22:21 UTC  

Yeah

2018-11-02 20:22:28 UTC  

discipline will give you responsibility

2018-11-02 20:22:38 UTC  

it teaches you to control yourself, and do what must be done

2018-11-02 20:22:45 UTC  

as opposed to sitting on the floor crying for someone to fix your things

2018-11-02 20:22:49 UTC  

because of a lack of dicipline and a generation without a father they keep it going the way it is .

2018-11-02 20:22:57 UTC  

because its all they know

2018-11-02 20:22:57 UTC  

i wanted to ask because im having trouble to find the source. does anyone have the source for the fivethirtyeight article saying how unaccurate they believe their predicitons to be for one or both of the congress races?

2018-11-02 20:23:05 UTC  

We can't have you being edgy on google(tm)

2018-11-02 20:23:05 UTC  

when is Midterms ?

2018-11-02 20:23:06 UTC  

its not lack of discipline

2018-11-02 20:23:07 UTC  

i dono if i would find them inextricably intertwined, just mearly related @Dr.Wol

2018-11-02 20:23:14 UTC  

hehe edgy intertwined word

2018-11-02 20:23:22 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-02 20:23:27 UTC  

you edgelord you

2018-11-02 20:23:45 UTC  

I wouldn't say they're intertwined either,

they definately can increase positive influence

2018-11-02 20:23:49 UTC  

responsibility and discipline don't always coexist, and building either up is important

2018-11-02 20:23:55 UTC  

for some people responsibility has to come first

2018-11-02 20:23:59 UTC  

Ready to red pill in exchange for good arguments.

2018-11-02 20:24:25 UTC  

otherwise discipline, even if practiced repeatedly, will have no appeal or long term merit

2018-11-02 20:24:33 UTC  

@Kali Yuga red pill me

2018-11-02 20:24:42 UTC  

the point of discipline is to teach you to roll with things, even if you don't wanna

Its a perfect breeding ground for becoming responsible

"We don't wanna do it, but we have to, so lets get it over with"

2018-11-02 20:25:18 UTC  

im only saying this because im one of those dumb highly-open and neurotic people and i have to put responsibility before discipline, discipline is like a stupid buzzword for me without having established responsibility first

2018-11-02 20:25:23 UTC  

@Dr.Wol just teach kids to reason and think long term and integrate and that will com with it

2018-11-02 20:25:28 UTC  

You definitely can't be responsible and undisciplined

2018-11-02 20:25:51 UTC  

isn't enough ttv, cuz ultimately you can reason anything

2018-11-02 20:26:01 UTC  

ive been disciplined af and it only made me more depressed because i was told repeatedly i'd be happy if i was simply disciplined but the larger picture wasn't there so i became more nihilistic, and if i could put what that lacking was it was a core understanding of individual responsibility

2018-11-02 20:26:14 UTC  
2018-11-02 20:26:19 UTC  

I'm a nazi now apparently

2018-11-02 20:26:21 UTC  

Sigh

2018-11-02 20:26:27 UTC  

arent we all?

2018-11-02 20:26:37 UTC  

But i mainly red pill on economics. Some politics and psychology comes in to.