Message from @Beemann

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2018-11-06 18:46:07 UTC  

from the Bible

2018-11-06 18:46:07 UTC  

Is there a rational basis for a family "unit"?

2018-11-06 18:46:13 UTC  

depends

2018-11-06 18:46:17 UTC  

On?

2018-11-06 18:46:31 UTC  

do you value your family depending what you mean by family unit

2018-11-06 18:46:45 UTC  

What do you mean by that?

2018-11-06 18:47:26 UTC  

@Beemann yes, it was called your retirement plan

2018-11-06 18:47:37 UTC  

It was, it isn't any longer

2018-11-06 18:48:23 UTC  

Have enough children in the hope that enough of them would live into adulthood and take care of your elderly butt

2018-11-06 18:48:23 UTC  

Cost of living in some areas is high enough that your kids won't be able to support you

2018-11-06 18:48:39 UTC  

@Beemann they dont have to

2018-11-06 18:48:42 UTC  

Which means you'd have to rely on collective movement

2018-11-06 18:48:49 UTC  

they arent bound morally by it

2018-11-06 18:48:55 UTC  

Why are you saying that to me when it wasn't my point?

2018-11-06 18:49:03 UTC  

it depends where the values stand

2018-11-06 18:49:05 UTC  

What's the rational basis for a family unit, or is there not one?

2018-11-06 18:49:15 UTC  

depends

2018-11-06 18:49:19 UTC  

On?

2018-11-06 18:49:23 UTC  

do you mean just normal family units

2018-11-06 18:49:34 UTC  

people may want to pursue kids

2018-11-06 18:49:40 UTC  

We'll use a "nuclear family" for simplicity's sake

2018-11-06 18:50:12 UTC  

love is selfish and only an altruist brute would disagree

2018-11-06 18:50:48 UTC  

The elderly took care of the grandkids, the kids took care of their parents and the grandkids were the next in line to continue your culture

2018-11-06 18:50:49 UTC  

The classic purpose of the old school nuclear family is/was child raising, not just child creation.

2018-11-06 18:50:56 UTC  

^

2018-11-06 18:51:04 UTC  

Also nuclear family is still pretty modern tbh

2018-11-06 18:51:10 UTC  

Extended families are more oldschool

2018-11-06 18:51:26 UTC  

But we'll just keep it to nuclear families

2018-11-06 18:52:03 UTC  

I have trouble keeping up with all the american β€œnew” definitions of family types

2018-11-06 18:52:22 UTC  

Nuclear family is 2 parents, kids, and that's it

2018-11-06 18:52:48 UTC  

Agree on the definition

2018-11-06 18:52:54 UTC  

Extended families were 3 generations in one house

2018-11-06 18:53:18 UTC  

is this about whether families are rational or not or the systems

2018-11-06 18:53:22 UTC  

People still use it today, and it is outperforming both single parent and 2 parent households from what I can tell

2018-11-06 18:53:22 UTC  

smh

2018-11-06 18:53:27 UTC  

Red tide

2018-11-06 18:53:31 UTC  

Well no, it's more specific

2018-11-06 18:53:50 UTC  

It's about whether or not the rational for families is immediately apparent, at the moment where you make the decision

2018-11-06 18:54:07 UTC  

Wait what family structure is more optimal?

2018-11-06 18:54:11 UTC  

as long as you arent acting on mindless whims

2018-11-06 18:54:19 UTC  

If you didn't know the statistics for single parent households, what would your rationale be for keeping the family together?