Message from @Beemann
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that goes for everything though
Yes
Buddhist values might be of use
no they wont
buddhist values are dumb as shit
Some of them aren't
Just voted first time today
the fucking system sucks
Buddha saw life as suffering I get skeptical of anything taken from his philosophy
You can't rationalize every social need in the moment, and from a "selfish" perspective
so easy to defraud
@Beemann yes you can for the most part
Why can't we vote online by blockchain?
wtf
Do you think there's a rational basis for any traditional values?
@Beemann it depends but normally no
yeah man
Let's do family. That's an easy one
Presumption of innocence
from the Bible
depends
On?
do you value your family depending what you mean by family unit
What do you mean by that?
It was, it isn't any longer
Have enough children in the hope that enough of them would live into adulthood and take care of your elderly butt
Cost of living in some areas is high enough that your kids won't be able to support you
@Beemann they dont have to
Which means you'd have to rely on collective movement
they arent bound morally by it
Why are you saying that to me when it wasn't my point?
it depends where the values stand
What's the rational basis for a family unit, or is there not one?
depends
On?
do you mean just normal family units
people may want to pursue kids
We'll use a "nuclear family" for simplicity's sake
love is selfish and only an altruist brute would disagree