Message from @Existence is identity

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2018-11-06 18:49:03 UTC  

it depends where the values stand

2018-11-06 18:49:05 UTC  

What's the rational basis for a family unit, or is there not one?

2018-11-06 18:49:15 UTC  

depends

2018-11-06 18:49:19 UTC  

On?

2018-11-06 18:49:23 UTC  

do you mean just normal family units

2018-11-06 18:49:34 UTC  

people may want to pursue kids

2018-11-06 18:49:40 UTC  

We'll use a "nuclear family" for simplicity's sake

2018-11-06 18:50:12 UTC  

love is selfish and only an altruist brute would disagree

2018-11-06 18:50:48 UTC  

The elderly took care of the grandkids, the kids took care of their parents and the grandkids were the next in line to continue your culture

2018-11-06 18:50:49 UTC  

The classic purpose of the old school nuclear family is/was child raising, not just child creation.

2018-11-06 18:50:56 UTC  

^

2018-11-06 18:51:04 UTC  

Also nuclear family is still pretty modern tbh

2018-11-06 18:51:10 UTC  

Extended families are more oldschool

2018-11-06 18:51:26 UTC  

But we'll just keep it to nuclear families

2018-11-06 18:52:03 UTC  

I have trouble keeping up with all the american “new” definitions of family types

2018-11-06 18:52:22 UTC  

Nuclear family is 2 parents, kids, and that's it

2018-11-06 18:52:48 UTC  

Agree on the definition

2018-11-06 18:52:54 UTC  

Extended families were 3 generations in one house

2018-11-06 18:53:18 UTC  

is this about whether families are rational or not or the systems

2018-11-06 18:53:22 UTC  

People still use it today, and it is outperforming both single parent and 2 parent households from what I can tell

2018-11-06 18:53:22 UTC  

smh

2018-11-06 18:53:27 UTC  

Red tide

2018-11-06 18:53:31 UTC  

Well no, it's more specific

2018-11-06 18:53:50 UTC  

It's about whether or not the rational for families is immediately apparent, at the moment where you make the decision

2018-11-06 18:54:07 UTC  

Wait what family structure is more optimal?

2018-11-06 18:54:11 UTC  

as long as you arent acting on mindless whims

2018-11-06 18:54:19 UTC  

If you didn't know the statistics for single parent households, what would your rationale be for keeping the family together?

2018-11-06 18:54:31 UTC  

Extended families are better than double parent households?

2018-11-06 18:54:32 UTC  

@>_ extended

2018-11-06 18:55:01 UTC  

What if your mom is dysfunctional and you don’t want her around your kids

2018-11-06 18:55:13 UTC  

You should read some of the stories from cultures where there is no concept of monogamy so the fathers have no idea which kid is their's, so none of them give any shits for any of the women or children in their society

2018-11-06 18:55:20 UTC  

That's a specific scenario

2018-11-06 18:55:35 UTC  

Like the Arche people in Paraguay

2018-11-06 18:55:48 UTC  

But you'll more easily take care of dysfunctional family members with pooled resources

2018-11-06 18:55:53 UTC  

```Bejaro-the-killer was really mean. Really really mean. He came back from hunting and heard my brother crying. My brother was crying a lot and wouldn’t shut up. Then Bejaro slammed him against a tree. He slammed him and he was dead. My mother was crying when my father returned from hunting. My father didn’t do anything. He was upset. He didn’t do anything. He was really afraid of Bejaro-the-killer. Bejaro was really strong. ```

2018-11-06 18:55:55 UTC  

In either case

2018-11-06 18:56:25 UTC  

That anecdote might be sensationalized bullshit like a lot of anthropology is though, so take it with a grain of salt

2018-11-06 18:58:12 UTC  

Not to mention how non-monogamy tends to end up with a society of harems which results in angry violent men, but that's getting a bit off topic I suppose

2018-11-06 18:59:32 UTC  

Most polls will be closed in 7 hours

2018-11-06 18:59:50 UTC  

First polls close 4 hours

2018-11-06 19:00:22 UTC  

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