idk how else i can put it

Your right, it is a concept. But as a concept it dosn't exist, it describes

again my english is getting at its limits for this stuff

I'm gonna go but before I go @Ronald McFunkytown✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ haha fucking skeptic

It is totally arbitrary, someone decided 60 seconds are in a minute, 60 minutes are in an hour etc..

time-space is a government plot to help the space aliens probe us wake up

Days and years are maybe the only ones that aren't arbitrary because one day is equal to one rotation of the Earth, and one year is equal to a complete revolution of the Earth around the sun

Yup

But they are relative measures. There is no objective way to measure time.

@FrostyCrits thats not time that's the measurement of it

But a year dosn't fit our time scale thats why a year is actually 365.25 days

thats why we have leap years

Are you gonna refute?

Time is a period of change between objects

Time is a discripter

Measurement of time is a descriptor, but time itself is not

You can't point to something and say that is time, it's a concept, describes

If I'm remembering correctly, a better way to understand time on a metaphysical level is to synonymize time with change

Change is universal

Math is the most objective thing there is

@tritrium math can be subjective it's just inconsistent like 1 + 1 = 3

not really; it's just the symbolic representation of the underlying logic that can be inconsistent

@Antireal math is a product of its own logic

math is anything if not consistent. The evaluation of any math formula based on real numbers will always yield a consistent result

it can be interpreted subjectively as such, but if you have 1 orange in one hand and one in the other and you bring them together, you do not suddenly have 3 oranges.
You might convince yourself you do, but thats a failure on your end

@FrostyCrits yes because of the logic

@tritrium never said it can't be disproved

i wouldnt dare to say math is objective reality, but i dare to say its the most objective language we know

Yes I agree

Math describes the natural universe

Well I'd say 1 will always be 1

Math is our clumsy way of understand the world

Well again, im very carefull with those things because the universe is one strange place lol

but for now, that will have to do

@tritrium well it contradicts the law of identity so to say that would be wrong you have to disprove the law first

Math will always be correct on the basic level

Objectively it will possibly be exactly that, we would just not know it yet

`Well I'd say 1 will always be 1`
not really. everything is so relative.
for example how much one dollar is different day to day.
one dollar today have more value than one dollar tomorrow.

We know because its been consistent thus far

yes

but so were these other things, hence my caution