Math is the most objective thing there is

@tritrium math can be subjective it's just inconsistent like 1 + 1 = 3

not really; it's just the symbolic representation of the underlying logic that can be inconsistent

@Antireal math is a product of its own logic

math is anything if not consistent. The evaluation of any math formula based on real numbers will always yield a consistent result

it can be interpreted subjectively as such, but if you have 1 orange in one hand and one in the other and you bring them together, you do not suddenly have 3 oranges.
You might convince yourself you do, but thats a failure on your end

@FrostyCrits yes because of the logic

@tritrium never said it can't be disproved

i wouldnt dare to say math is objective reality, but i dare to say its the most objective language we know

Yes I agree

Math describes the natural universe

Well I'd say 1 will always be 1

Math is our clumsy way of understand the world

Well again, im very carefull with those things because the universe is one strange place lol

but for now, that will have to do

@tritrium well it contradicts the law of identity so to say that would be wrong you have to disprove the law first

Math will always be correct on the basic level

Objectively it will possibly be exactly that, we would just not know it yet

`Well I'd say 1 will always be 1`
not really. everything is so relative.
for example how much one dollar is different day to day.
one dollar today have more value than one dollar tomorrow.

We know because its been consistent thus far

yes

but so were these other things, hence my caution

That's different. Value can change.

i mean in day to day life none of this really matters ofc

this is all very much abstract

yeah, metaphysical stuff like this is pretty useless in everyday life

On a conscious level yeah

Im trying to finish my speech but im tweaking hard rn

fml

You right, its all pretty esoteric, but important none the less.

They're questions about the nature of reality itself, so it has its place

@Antireal no its not

Reason is important in life which comes from reality

Understanding how things work is important but not critical to existence

im pretty sure hes referring to the abstract sense of these things

@Existence is identity I wasn't saying that reason is unimportant. I was saying questions like "does time exist" don't have much impact on one'

s daily life.

@Antireal you said metaphysics

@Existence is identity Metaphysics: "a division of philosophy that is concerned with the fundamental nature of reality and being"

Reason is important; I'm not contesting that

Yes but it integrates with life