@tritrium man has created tools that aid this and has done so much where logic and selfishness are shouted down and shamed

Aristotle is what gave us reason

I dont contest any of that booled

He invented rules of reason

Time dosn't exist, time is a man made construct to denote the passage of our liner existance

i do not contest reason at all

Sure

Well good question, but time is how to say it in english

see this is where im reaching my english vocabulary limits

@FrostyCrits time is concept doesn't mean it doesn't exists it generalizes and measures the change of objects

Time is arbitrary, some person somewhere came up with the idea

> Time

What if I were to... stop it?

Units used to measure time are arbitrary, but time itself exists

It exists if it doesn't contradict itself and can be observed which it can

time is not arbitrary, its a mathematical measurement of the earth revolving around the sun essentially

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but its not solid, it can be bend

idk how else i can put it

Your right, it is a concept. But as a concept it dosn't exist, it describes

again my english is getting at its limits for this stuff

I'm gonna go but before I go @Ronald McFunkytown✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ haha fucking skeptic

It is totally arbitrary, someone decided 60 seconds are in a minute, 60 minutes are in an hour etc..

time-space is a government plot to help the space aliens probe us wake up

Days and years are maybe the only ones that aren't arbitrary because one day is equal to one rotation of the Earth, and one year is equal to a complete revolution of the Earth around the sun

Yup

But they are relative measures. There is no objective way to measure time.

@FrostyCrits thats not time that's the measurement of it

But a year dosn't fit our time scale thats why a year is actually 365.25 days

thats why we have leap years

Are you gonna refute?

Time is a period of change between objects

Time is a discripter

Measurement of time is a descriptor, but time itself is not

You can't point to something and say that is time, it's a concept, describes

If I'm remembering correctly, a better way to understand time on a metaphysical level is to synonymize time with change

Change is universal

Math is the most objective thing there is

@tritrium math can be subjective it's just inconsistent like 1 + 1 = 3

not really; it's just the symbolic representation of the underlying logic that can be inconsistent

@Antireal math is a product of its own logic

math is anything if not consistent. The evaluation of any math formula based on real numbers will always yield a consistent result