Message from @tritrium

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2018-11-08 06:29:18 UTC  

Time is a period of change between objects

2018-11-08 06:29:19 UTC  

Time is a discripter

2018-11-08 06:30:09 UTC  

Measurement of time is a descriptor, but time itself is not

2018-11-08 06:31:00 UTC  

You can't point to something and say that is time, it's a concept, describes

2018-11-08 06:31:13 UTC  

If I'm remembering correctly, a better way to understand time on a metaphysical level is to synonymize time with change

2018-11-08 06:31:17 UTC  

Change is universal

2018-11-08 06:31:28 UTC  

Math is the most objective thing there is

2018-11-08 06:32:20 UTC  

@tritrium math can be subjective it's just inconsistent like 1 + 1 = 3

2018-11-08 06:32:52 UTC  

not really; it's just the symbolic representation of the underlying logic that can be inconsistent

2018-11-08 06:33:34 UTC  

@Antireal math is a product of its own logic

2018-11-08 06:33:51 UTC  

math is anything if not consistent. The evaluation of any math formula based on real numbers will always yield a consistent result

2018-11-08 06:34:04 UTC  

it can be interpreted subjectively as such, but if you have 1 orange in one hand and one in the other and you bring them together, you do not suddenly have 3 oranges.
You might convince yourself you do, but thats a failure on your end

2018-11-08 06:34:12 UTC  

@FrostyCrits yes because of the logic

2018-11-08 06:34:30 UTC  

@tritrium never said it can't be disproved

2018-11-08 06:34:32 UTC  

i wouldnt dare to say math is objective reality, but i dare to say its the most objective language we know

2018-11-08 06:34:45 UTC  

Yes I agree

2018-11-08 06:34:51 UTC  

Math describes the natural universe

2018-11-08 06:35:10 UTC  

Well I'd say 1 will always be 1

2018-11-08 06:35:44 UTC  

Math is our clumsy way of understand the world

2018-11-08 06:35:45 UTC  

Well again, im very carefull with those things because the universe is one strange place lol

2018-11-08 06:36:13 UTC  

but for now, that will have to do

2018-11-08 06:36:29 UTC  

@tritrium well it contradicts the law of identity so to say that would be wrong you have to disprove the law first

2018-11-08 06:37:09 UTC  

Math will always be correct on the basic level

2018-11-08 06:37:31 UTC  

Objectively it will possibly be exactly that, we would just not know it yet

2018-11-08 06:37:52 UTC  

`Well I'd say 1 will always be 1`
not really. everything is so relative.
for example how much one dollar is different day to day.
one dollar today have more value than one dollar tomorrow.

2018-11-08 06:37:57 UTC  

We know because its been consistent thus far

2018-11-08 06:38:00 UTC  

yes

2018-11-08 06:38:14 UTC  

but so were these other things, hence my caution

2018-11-08 06:38:14 UTC  

That's different. Value can change.

2018-11-08 06:38:36 UTC  

i mean in day to day life none of this really matters ofc

2018-11-08 06:38:42 UTC  

this is all very much abstract

2018-11-08 06:39:33 UTC  

yeah, metaphysical stuff like this is pretty useless in everyday life

2018-11-08 06:40:01 UTC  

On a conscious level yeah

2018-11-08 06:40:04 UTC  

Im trying to finish my speech but im tweaking hard rn

2018-11-08 06:40:05 UTC  

fml

2018-11-08 06:40:12 UTC  

You right, its all pretty esoteric, but important none the less.

2018-11-08 06:40:54 UTC  

They're questions about the nature of reality itself, so it has its place

2018-11-08 06:41:00 UTC  

@Antireal no its not

2018-11-08 06:41:27 UTC  

Reason is important in life which comes from reality

2018-11-08 06:41:47 UTC  

Understanding how things work is important but not critical to existence

2018-11-08 06:41:48 UTC  

im pretty sure hes referring to the abstract sense of these things