Message from @The Yellow King

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2018-11-22 23:38:12 UTC  

are we making robots capable of art?

Or are we just losing our view of art due to pretentious asswipes living in denial about their artistic grasp? 😉

2018-11-22 23:38:40 UTC  

those slutwalk poems are a harsh competitor to Shakespeare i'm sure 😛

2018-11-22 23:39:13 UTC  

What happens to the nations that become nationalistic and don't go with singularity? Do they war the singularity nations and win? Then go to Trumpolitics?

2018-11-22 23:39:18 UTC  

Tax robots and machines for the value of thier production and then return that to the human economy

2018-11-22 23:39:46 UTC  

That was an idea I has before is tax the robots more than human labor

2018-11-22 23:39:53 UTC  

they are already making 'robot' news anchors

2018-11-22 23:40:06 UTC  

Tim is a robot news anchor, you ever seen his legs in a video?

2018-11-22 23:40:12 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-22 23:40:17 UTC  

and apparently it's both more likeable and human like when compared to come cnn anchors

2018-11-22 23:40:30 UTC  

Post scarcity is a meme, art is not about the end result in isolation, people still prefer interactions with other people

2018-11-22 23:40:40 UTC  

^

2018-11-22 23:40:40 UTC  

Well they are CNN anchors after all

2018-11-22 23:41:10 UTC  

also taxing robots isn't gonna work, those companies will just move to international waters 😄

2018-11-22 23:41:27 UTC  

Prefer interactions with other people in what regards?

2018-11-22 23:41:33 UTC  

this chat

2018-11-22 23:41:37 UTC  

😛

2018-11-22 23:42:02 UTC  

Also employer and employee has always been a negotiation, it's merely that employee power has been significantly reduced due to corporatization and the global market

2018-11-22 23:42:03 UTC  

Can tax the shipping

2018-11-22 23:42:34 UTC  

that would be a tariff

2018-11-22 23:42:39 UTC  

No

2018-11-22 23:42:39 UTC  

It's always been reduced. Compared to the employers

2018-11-22 23:42:50 UTC  

Tariff is taxing the person who imports

2018-11-22 23:43:46 UTC  

Nope
I have a factory, I need to make X
X requires 100 people to produce consistently
I have to attract the best people who make X in the vicinity, such that I pull the talent away from my competition

2018-11-22 23:44:22 UTC  

Now the issue is that I just move my shit to a cheap country, use cheap parts, nobody questions the quality hit or buys domestic, and the government bails me out if I fuck up

2018-11-22 23:44:27 UTC  

I'm gonna go dispense urine into my toilet.

2018-11-22 23:45:12 UTC  

"Tax robots and machines for the value of thier production and then return that to the human economy"

Thus increasing the cost of those products until they cost the same regardless if a robot or human made it, therefore raising the cost of living this requiring more money for humans, this requiring more tax and we have fixed nothing

2018-11-22 23:45:40 UTC  

You're producing something, Scrib. Let's tax it!

2018-11-22 23:45:52 UTC  

There's no need to work for talent because they either A: have no choice because I've bought out all the other options in the area (or we've agreed to specific hiring standards) B: startups will be gimped and C: there are too many competing potential employees

2018-11-22 23:46:28 UTC  

What are some of your ideas to deal with some of the consequences of automation Grenade?

2018-11-22 23:46:59 UTC  

One of the big early steam scares was that sales prices would start a race to the bottom, in which devs would have to sell their games for insanely low prices to compete with other products

2018-11-22 23:47:30 UTC  

This is because people want the best deal, and if someone finds away to pull ahead of the pack, everyone else must adapt in some way

2018-11-22 23:47:42 UTC  

But how do we handle the social challenge of inadequate employment because we have robots doing most things? If we do nothing, we end up with revolution.

2018-11-22 23:48:08 UTC  

We reduce the population naturally by not bringing in tons of people

2018-11-22 23:48:18 UTC  

And allowing natural depopulation to occur over the next few generations

2018-11-22 23:48:41 UTC  

Largely dealing with not enough labor I assume would include reduced work week

2018-11-22 23:48:42 UTC  

@ExceptionalFeather what happened to phone operators and line worker jobs?

2018-11-22 23:48:52 UTC  

How do we deal with the obscene concentration of wealth to this who in the automation?

2018-11-22 23:49:05 UTC  

You realize population growth is related to population density not job availability

2018-11-22 23:49:23 UTC  

People in rural areas have more children generally for this reason

2018-11-22 23:49:28 UTC  

I like the reduced work week but we've not seen that happen naturally

2018-11-22 23:49:31 UTC  

@Grenade123 the small portion of people lost their jobs unemployment went up we needed new jobs and likely balanced out