Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-11-22 23:34:10 UTC  

It took coming off the safety net of the gold standard, reduced work week, and war when machines came out to makeup for the great depression

2018-11-22 23:34:38 UTC  

@Misomania I used to work in a grocery store, can confirm

2018-11-22 23:34:51 UTC  

With automation, we'll have to switch over to service jobs

2018-11-22 23:35:16 UTC  

Or we need to go into post scarcity economics

2018-11-22 23:35:21 UTC  

AI though

2018-11-22 23:35:25 UTC  

Which is the next logical step

2018-11-22 23:35:28 UTC  

overall it seems that the natural tendencies of open markets is to eliminate competition, mergers and buyouts. Add in automation and overall that will eliminate almost all food producing jobs

2018-11-22 23:35:37 UTC  

yeah, and unattainable for atleast the next 70-80 years

2018-11-22 23:35:57 UTC  

if that

2018-11-22 23:36:46 UTC  

We are making robots capable of art we are obsoleting humans

2018-11-22 23:37:03 UTC  

and Open markets are meant to create start ups,

Small companies will grow and become big companies, they'll get corrupt/assoles in their thrive to earn more money,
Making the people dislike them and supporting smaller companies, which will drive out the old one

2018-11-22 23:37:05 UTC  

you see this in the media world

2018-11-22 23:37:14 UTC  

CNN etc dying, and Tim and Styx etc growing

2018-11-22 23:37:29 UTC  

Just work towards singularity

2018-11-22 23:38:12 UTC  

are we making robots capable of art?

Or are we just losing our view of art due to pretentious asswipes living in denial about their artistic grasp? 😉

2018-11-22 23:38:40 UTC  

those slutwalk poems are a harsh competitor to Shakespeare i'm sure 😛

2018-11-22 23:39:13 UTC  

What happens to the nations that become nationalistic and don't go with singularity? Do they war the singularity nations and win? Then go to Trumpolitics?

2018-11-22 23:39:18 UTC  

Tax robots and machines for the value of thier production and then return that to the human economy

2018-11-22 23:39:46 UTC  

That was an idea I has before is tax the robots more than human labor

2018-11-22 23:39:53 UTC  

they are already making 'robot' news anchors

2018-11-22 23:40:06 UTC  

Tim is a robot news anchor, you ever seen his legs in a video?

2018-11-22 23:40:12 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-22 23:40:17 UTC  

and apparently it's both more likeable and human like when compared to come cnn anchors

2018-11-22 23:40:30 UTC  

Post scarcity is a meme, art is not about the end result in isolation, people still prefer interactions with other people

2018-11-22 23:40:40 UTC  

^

2018-11-22 23:40:40 UTC  

Well they are CNN anchors after all

2018-11-22 23:41:10 UTC  

also taxing robots isn't gonna work, those companies will just move to international waters 😄

2018-11-22 23:41:27 UTC  

Prefer interactions with other people in what regards?

2018-11-22 23:41:33 UTC  

this chat

2018-11-22 23:41:37 UTC  

😛

2018-11-22 23:42:02 UTC  

Also employer and employee has always been a negotiation, it's merely that employee power has been significantly reduced due to corporatization and the global market

2018-11-22 23:42:03 UTC  

Can tax the shipping

2018-11-22 23:42:34 UTC  

that would be a tariff

2018-11-22 23:42:39 UTC  

No

2018-11-22 23:42:39 UTC  

It's always been reduced. Compared to the employers

2018-11-22 23:42:50 UTC  

Tariff is taxing the person who imports

2018-11-22 23:43:46 UTC  

Nope
I have a factory, I need to make X
X requires 100 people to produce consistently
I have to attract the best people who make X in the vicinity, such that I pull the talent away from my competition

2018-11-22 23:44:22 UTC  

Now the issue is that I just move my shit to a cheap country, use cheap parts, nobody questions the quality hit or buys domestic, and the government bails me out if I fuck up

2018-11-22 23:44:27 UTC  

I'm gonna go dispense urine into my toilet.

2018-11-22 23:45:12 UTC  

"Tax robots and machines for the value of thier production and then return that to the human economy"

Thus increasing the cost of those products until they cost the same regardless if a robot or human made it, therefore raising the cost of living this requiring more money for humans, this requiring more tax and we have fixed nothing

2018-11-22 23:45:40 UTC  

You're producing something, Scrib. Let's tax it!