that would be a tariff

No

It's always been reduced. Compared to the employers

Tariff is taxing the person who imports

Nope
I have a factory, I need to make X
X requires 100 people to produce consistently
I have to attract the best people who make X in the vicinity, such that I pull the talent away from my competition

Now the issue is that I just move my shit to a cheap country, use cheap parts, nobody questions the quality hit or buys domestic, and the government bails me out if I fuck up

I'm gonna go dispense urine into my toilet.

"Tax robots and machines for the value of thier production and then return that to the human economy"

Thus increasing the cost of those products until they cost the same regardless if a robot or human made it, therefore raising the cost of living this requiring more money for humans, this requiring more tax and we have fixed nothing

You're producing something, Scrib. Let's tax it!

There's no need to work for talent because they either A: have no choice because I've bought out all the other options in the area (or we've agreed to specific hiring standards) B: startups will be gimped and C: there are too many competing potential employees

What are some of your ideas to deal with some of the consequences of automation Grenade?

One of the big early steam scares was that sales prices would start a race to the bottom, in which devs would have to sell their games for insanely low prices to compete with other products

This is because people want the best deal, and if someone finds away to pull ahead of the pack, everyone else must adapt in some way

But how do we handle the social challenge of inadequate employment because we have robots doing most things? If we do nothing, we end up with revolution.

We reduce the population naturally by not bringing in tons of people

And allowing natural depopulation to occur over the next few generations

Largely dealing with not enough labor I assume would include reduced work week

@ExceptionalFeather what happened to phone operators and line worker jobs?

How do we deal with the obscene concentration of wealth to this who in the automation?

You realize population growth is related to population density not job availability

People in rural areas have more children generally for this reason

I like the reduced work week but we've not seen that happen naturally

@Grenade123 the small portion of people lost their jobs unemployment went up we needed new jobs and likely balanced out

@DrYuriMom who pays them once they have all the wealth?

It's a multitude of factors, owing to utility of children and overall costs. Costs are raising in cities

@Grenade123 but what happens if over half a country goes unemployed

Education also plays a statistical factor

So no jobs have been made to replace the operator jobs?

That's a real problem, grenade. You end up with an economy that focuses on luxuries.

The difference is that it was gradual

Who repairs the machines?

I'm a programmer, how do I have a job?

Less people than it replaced and with automation probably more machines repairing machines

AI will automate some programming though that will likely be a while down the road

I know for a fact long term we will be fine but look at machines in early 1900

Do we not want to avoid a great depression?

I'm also not convinced that automation will be as widespread a solution as people are saying

You are using the same arguments used for line workers and phone operators.

it will kill off many jobs that people are using as an excuse for more migration though

Automation has its ups and downs, the danger is that it is a major portion of the population going unemployed

but it will take less people to run a factory than do without automation, even with jobs created in other fields like maintenance and repair