Message from @The Yellow King

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2018-11-23 00:01:22 UTC  

We need new jobs we can't imagine would exist for sure

2018-11-23 00:01:27 UTC  

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2018-11-23 00:01:37 UTC  

The question is if we can get them fast enough

2018-11-23 00:02:05 UTC  

Would you rather technically progress be halted now? Or perhaps in the 1700s? Because of fear of us not figuring shit out?

2018-11-23 00:02:23 UTC  

No

2018-11-23 00:02:24 UTC  

necessity is the mother of invention

2018-11-23 00:02:42 UTC  

The only way to predict the future is to limit it's possiblities.

2018-11-23 00:02:42 UTC  

But redistribution of wealth from machine to man is worth discussing

2018-11-23 00:03:00 UTC  

Is it? Does redistribute of wealth work?

2018-11-23 00:03:03 UTC  

how much you wanna redistribute?

2018-11-23 00:03:14 UTC  

That's part of the discussion

2018-11-23 00:03:21 UTC  

Feast might not come for anyone who survives the depression though

2018-11-23 00:03:22 UTC  

And can you prove it is not the default state of the market?

2018-11-23 00:03:24 UTC  

machines do not have wealth, they are someone's.

2018-11-23 00:03:45 UTC  

Yes, they are. Just as we tax cars we can tax automation.

2018-11-23 00:03:49 UTC  

The obvious answer is tax them then

2018-11-23 00:03:55 UTC  

you don't tax the car though, you tax its owner

2018-11-23 00:04:01 UTC  

What happens to the economy when everyone starts hording wealth?

2018-11-23 00:04:07 UTC  

You tax the car, the owner pays if

2018-11-23 00:04:10 UTC  

It even

2018-11-23 00:04:24 UTC  

yes, but you tax a minor portion,

How much would you tax the robots?

2018-11-23 00:04:27 UTC  

We tax the owner for owning the car. The car is a choice. Using automation is a choice.

2018-11-23 00:04:41 UTC  

Taxing cars means the poor can't have cars.

2018-11-23 00:04:45 UTC  

Economy slows down if people horde wealth

2018-11-23 00:04:47 UTC  

And it should be minor and based on the call produced

2018-11-23 00:04:49 UTC  

I live in such a state.

2018-11-23 00:05:02 UTC  

Or Fiat I should say

2018-11-23 00:05:17 UTC  

listen if i can buy a can of beans for 50% of what I am paying now, Idc if they replaced the human workers with robots. And that leaves me 50% to spend on other shit.

2018-11-23 00:05:22 UTC  

it just forces people to look for ways around it so they can have a car and still afford food and rent

2018-11-23 00:05:27 UTC  

Cuz in my experience, companies that get taxed more just raise prices to compensate

meaning you're giving wealth to people, who will gain nothign due to them losing purchasing power

2018-11-23 00:05:31 UTC  

By taxing the production of automation we tax according to ability to pay

2018-11-23 00:06:14 UTC  

taxes are paid by the buyers, always.

2018-11-23 00:06:19 UTC  

not the sellers

2018-11-23 00:06:40 UTC  

yes, but they're getting it from the welfare generated by the robot owners

2018-11-23 00:06:44 UTC  

This is really nothing different than Trump's tarriffs. You tax production you find less socially appealing (imports) to encourage production in a more appealing manner (domestic)

2018-11-23 00:06:45 UTC  

who hike prices to the sellers

2018-11-23 00:06:52 UTC  

We should consider some rather crazy policy for short term strictly

2018-11-23 00:06:57 UTC  

I'm actually playing from Trump's playbook here

2018-11-23 00:07:28 UTC  

the difference here though is that instead of taxing outsiders, you're taxing your own