Message from @Walsp

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2018-11-23 14:46:07 UTC  

I ain't buying shit products

2018-11-23 14:46:15 UTC  

cap·i·tal·ism
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2018-11-23 14:46:16 UTC  

But just because the government has companies it controls does not in itself preclude a capitalist system, I think. Sure, there is an unfair advantage, but I think it's hard to find a system that has absolutely pure markets.

2018-11-23 14:46:17 UTC  

Cause I define s capitalist economy

2018-11-23 14:46:21 UTC  

Economic reforms introducing market principles began in 1978 and were carried out in two stages. The first stage, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, involved the decollectivization of agriculture, the opening up of the country to foreign investment, and permission for entrepreneurs to start businesses.

2018-11-23 14:46:25 UTC  

This is what china did

2018-11-23 14:46:29 UTC  

>doesnt know one of his own country's major corporations
>wants to discuss markets
holy fuck

2018-11-23 14:46:32 UTC  

My money wont be going to shit

2018-11-23 14:46:42 UTC  

Muscle neck man is in the news again.

2018-11-23 14:46:49 UTC  

This guy

2018-11-23 14:46:56 UTC  

Derailing conversations

2018-11-23 14:46:59 UTC  

the short answer is, it doesnt
The US government does not own Monsanto

2018-11-23 14:47:07 UTC  

Okay, so what would Europe be? For example, in many modern social democracies, the government has public health insurance, but you can still choose private alternatives as a consumer.

Capitalist or not?

2018-11-23 14:47:10 UTC  

You guys been on the same conversation for hours upon hours now.

2018-11-23 14:47:12 UTC  

>.>

2018-11-23 14:47:17 UTC  

Europe is Capitalist with a high tax to pay for social programs

2018-11-23 14:47:18 UTC  

Get a new topic!

2018-11-23 14:47:35 UTC  

It's been about 1.5 hours

2018-11-23 14:47:36 UTC  

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2018-11-23 14:47:37 UTC  

it's **P R I V A T E L Y O W N E D**

2018-11-23 14:47:40 UTC  

Thats capitalism

2018-11-23 14:47:48 UTC  

yes i linked that like 2 mins ago

2018-11-23 14:47:54 UTC  

Its all comes down to privatization

2018-11-23 14:47:57 UTC  

Well, then, to be consistent, we cannot simply use state owned companies as sole characteristics, as long as the consumers have a choice in the market.

2018-11-23 14:48:05 UTC  

aswell as free market as it plays into the free market

2018-11-23 14:48:20 UTC  

What is "free"?

2018-11-23 14:48:26 UTC  

Having a choice as a consumer?

2018-11-23 14:48:32 UTC  

consumers in china dont have a choice

2018-11-23 14:48:34 UTC  

What we got here is not capitalist, the government owns stakes in multiple companies and untill recently owned several companies that held a monopoly on specific goods because of that.

2018-11-23 14:48:36 UTC  

having a choice of which market you enter

2018-11-23 14:48:37 UTC  

because of credit scoring

2018-11-23 14:48:38 UTC  

Actually, they do.

2018-11-23 14:48:42 UTC  

Credit Scoring

2018-11-23 14:48:48 UTC  

if you dont buy chinese products

2018-11-23 14:48:53 UTC  

you cant get a bank loan

2018-11-23 14:48:56 UTC  

END OF STORY

2018-11-23 14:48:59 UTC  

In China, you can choose alternative telecom companies, as long as you live in a metropolitan area.

2018-11-23 14:49:09 UTC  

not talking about Telecom

2018-11-23 14:49:16 UTC  

Talking about chinese goods and services

2018-11-23 14:49:29 UTC  

to free or not to free

2018-11-23 14:49:34 UTC  

Telecom is a good and service