Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-11-23 14:46:29 UTC  

>doesnt know one of his own country's major corporations
>wants to discuss markets
holy fuck

2018-11-23 14:46:32 UTC  

My money wont be going to shit

2018-11-23 14:46:42 UTC  

Muscle neck man is in the news again.

2018-11-23 14:46:49 UTC  

This guy

2018-11-23 14:46:56 UTC  

Derailing conversations

2018-11-23 14:46:59 UTC  

the short answer is, it doesnt
The US government does not own Monsanto

2018-11-23 14:47:07 UTC  

Okay, so what would Europe be? For example, in many modern social democracies, the government has public health insurance, but you can still choose private alternatives as a consumer.

Capitalist or not?

2018-11-23 14:47:10 UTC  

You guys been on the same conversation for hours upon hours now.

2018-11-23 14:47:12 UTC  

>.>

2018-11-23 14:47:17 UTC  

Europe is Capitalist with a high tax to pay for social programs

2018-11-23 14:47:18 UTC  

Get a new topic!

2018-11-23 14:47:35 UTC  

It's been about 1.5 hours

2018-11-23 14:47:36 UTC  

an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

2018-11-23 14:47:37 UTC  

it's **P R I V A T E L Y O W N E D**

2018-11-23 14:47:40 UTC  

Thats capitalism

2018-11-23 14:47:48 UTC  

yes i linked that like 2 mins ago

2018-11-23 14:47:54 UTC  

Its all comes down to privatization

2018-11-23 14:47:57 UTC  

Well, then, to be consistent, we cannot simply use state owned companies as sole characteristics, as long as the consumers have a choice in the market.

2018-11-23 14:48:05 UTC  

aswell as free market as it plays into the free market

2018-11-23 14:48:20 UTC  

What is "free"?

2018-11-23 14:48:26 UTC  

Having a choice as a consumer?

2018-11-23 14:48:32 UTC  

consumers in china dont have a choice

2018-11-23 14:48:34 UTC  

What we got here is not capitalist, the government owns stakes in multiple companies and untill recently owned several companies that held a monopoly on specific goods because of that.

2018-11-23 14:48:36 UTC  

having a choice of which market you enter

2018-11-23 14:48:37 UTC  

because of credit scoring

2018-11-23 14:48:38 UTC  

Actually, they do.

2018-11-23 14:48:42 UTC  

Credit Scoring

2018-11-23 14:48:48 UTC  

if you dont buy chinese products

2018-11-23 14:48:53 UTC  

you cant get a bank loan

2018-11-23 14:48:56 UTC  

END OF STORY

2018-11-23 14:48:59 UTC  

In China, you can choose alternative telecom companies, as long as you live in a metropolitan area.

2018-11-23 14:49:09 UTC  

not talking about Telecom

2018-11-23 14:49:16 UTC  

Talking about chinese goods and services

2018-11-23 14:49:29 UTC  

to free or not to free

2018-11-23 14:49:34 UTC  

Telecom is a good and service

2018-11-23 14:49:40 UTC  

all telecon companys are run by the state .

2018-11-23 14:49:52 UTC  

doesnt matter how fucking private they classify that shit

2018-11-23 14:50:08 UTC  

Okay, so you experience disadvantages if you don't choose what the state offers.

Is that alone a criterion for socialism?

2018-11-23 14:50:09 UTC  

You mean regulated by the state

2018-11-23 14:50:23 UTC  

But like hey

2018-11-23 14:50:25 UTC  

the criterion for socialism is that the state owns the means of production