Message from @Cody

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2018-11-23 18:55:40 UTC  

But the law allows the killing of an individual under specific circumstances, an exception to laws which protect the taking of lives without due process.

2018-11-23 18:55:43 UTC  

There are restrictions on the state's ability to take life, yes.

2018-11-23 18:56:09 UTC  

And to enforce laws which allow for the abridgement of citizen privileges.

2018-11-23 18:56:15 UTC  

technically speaking, the state can provide assisted suicide without violating the 14th, as long as due process is undergone before committing it.

2018-11-23 18:56:25 UTC  

but assisted suicide is literally just a doctor giving you a pill to kill yourself with

2018-11-23 18:56:35 UTC  

He can not force you to take it

2018-11-23 18:56:41 UTC  

Exactly

2018-11-23 18:56:55 UTC  

and the 14th doesn't say anything about non-state entities from doing it, at all

2018-11-23 18:56:58 UTC  

That is murder, in fact, the doctor can not be in the room at all

2018-11-23 18:56:59 UTC  

And good laws require multiple steps before the assistance can be provided.

2018-11-23 18:57:03 UTC  

> individuals privilege to life
life is a right
and protected against State action by the 14th

2018-11-23 18:57:05 UTC  

A due process if you will.

2018-11-23 18:57:07 UTC  

But enforcing the law which allows you to take away your life is a broach of the amendment.

2018-11-23 18:57:26 UTC  

So we are forbidden to die?

2018-11-23 18:57:31 UTC  

no

2018-11-23 18:57:35 UTC  

If life is a right, it wouldn't be legal for the state to remove it under any circumstances.

2018-11-23 18:57:44 UTC  

GODDAMNIT CAT, DON'T DIE OR THAT'S ILLEGAL!

2018-11-23 18:57:47 UTC  

the state is forbidden from depriving you of life
without due process

2018-11-23 18:57:52 UTC  

Is voting a right?

2018-11-23 18:58:02 UTC  

But life isn't a right.

2018-11-23 18:58:07 UTC  

The state isnt removeing that right, it is just giving amnesty to doctors who do it

2018-11-23 18:58:13 UTC  

But states may sanction others to take away life without due process? I'm deeply confused.

2018-11-23 18:58:19 UTC  

The Declaration of Independence has no legal standing

2018-11-23 18:58:28 UTC  

@Bookworm Exactly, you got it right now.

2018-11-23 18:58:29 UTC  

foundational document

2018-11-23 18:58:39 UTC  

No one is taking life away except the individual taking their own life

2018-11-23 18:58:54 UTC  

The doctor comes in with a pill, leaves,

2018-11-23 18:58:57 UTC  

"deprive"

2018-11-23 18:59:01 UTC  

you chose to take it or not

2018-11-23 18:59:08 UTC  

vs. assisting you to take your own life

2018-11-23 18:59:21 UTC  

Even Kavorkian's Machine required the person to press the button themselves

2018-11-23 19:00:09 UTC  

Btw cat, how old is your son?

2018-11-23 19:00:10 UTC  

Also, we turn off machines or withdraw tube feedings from people all the time because of their written and notarized wills or on the direction of their powers of attorney

2018-11-23 19:00:16 UTC  

My son in 17yo

2018-11-23 19:00:24 UTC  

Does he play any PC games?

2018-11-23 19:00:39 UTC  

Not really

2018-11-23 19:00:41 UTC  

RIP

2018-11-23 19:00:49 UTC  

I want more guys around my age to game with

2018-11-23 19:00:58 UTC  

Hey Doc, I've got this KILLER headache, got any pills for me?

2018-11-23 19:01:19 UTC  

I;'ll see about bringing him to Sakura Con

2018-11-23 19:01:37 UTC  

I will be 21 by then