Message from @JustTom
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I've watched some serious suffering. I won't participate with assisted suicide on personal moral grounds, but I support the right to it with proper safeguards to ensure it is not abused. And yes, this is a state issue.
Its not enforced, teh state does not require a doctor to provide the pill
Where in the constitution is there a requirement upon the individual that they remain alive?
14th ammendment doesn't give you any rights to life. It only prevents the state's right of taking it away, and ONLY if without due process. You can still murder the fuck out of anyone you want as long as it's had due process.
But the law allows the killing of an individual under specific circumstances, an exception to laws which protect the taking of lives without due process.
There are restrictions on the state's ability to take life, yes.
And to enforce laws which allow for the abridgement of citizen privileges.
technically speaking, the state can provide assisted suicide without violating the 14th, as long as due process is undergone before committing it.
but assisted suicide is literally just a doctor giving you a pill to kill yourself with
He can not force you to take it
Exactly
and the 14th doesn't say anything about non-state entities from doing it, at all
That is murder, in fact, the doctor can not be in the room at all
And good laws require multiple steps before the assistance can be provided.
> individuals privilege to life
life is a right
and protected against State action by the 14th
A due process if you will.
But enforcing the law which allows you to take away your life is a broach of the amendment.
So we are forbidden to die?
no
If life is a right, it wouldn't be legal for the state to remove it under any circumstances.
the state is forbidden from depriving you of life
without due process
Is voting a right?
But life isn't a right.
The state isnt removeing that right, it is just giving amnesty to doctors who do it
But states may sanction others to take away life without due process? I'm deeply confused.
The Declaration of Independence has no legal standing
foundational document
No one is taking life away except the individual taking their own life
The doctor comes in with a pill, leaves,
"deprive"
you chose to take it or not
vs. assisting you to take your own life
Even Kavorkian's Machine required the person to press the button themselves
Btw cat, how old is your son?
Also, we turn off machines or withdraw tube feedings from people all the time because of their written and notarized wills or on the direction of their powers of attorney
My son in 17yo
Does he play any PC games?
Not really
RIP