Message from @Rouqen

Discord ID: 519993516424953867


2018-12-05 21:45:42 UTC  

Material vs immaterial gain

2018-12-05 21:45:43 UTC  

Nope

2018-12-05 21:45:51 UTC  

I think along the lines of the means to obtain the end

2018-12-05 21:46:10 UTC  

To what end?

2018-12-05 21:46:10 UTC  

There was a question if there is only matter @Beemann

2018-12-05 21:46:17 UTC  

And why should this be a primary?

2018-12-05 21:46:20 UTC  

Ah

2018-12-05 21:46:24 UTC  

I said stronk yes

2018-12-05 21:46:42 UTC  

I thought it was about the dichotomy

2018-12-05 21:47:00 UTC  

You asked about how to obtain happiness or why I believe money is a major factor to gaining happiness.

2018-12-05 21:47:25 UTC  

So happiness is the end

2018-12-05 21:47:27 UTC  

Happiness being the end

2018-12-05 21:47:37 UTC  

Happiness is always the end

2018-12-05 21:47:43 UTC  

If you have a goal

2018-12-05 21:47:46 UTC  

And achieve it

2018-12-05 21:47:50 UTC  

You get happiness

2018-12-05 21:48:05 UTC  

But to say money is a primary in obtaining this would mean reality contradicts this fact as people with money have killed themselves or suffered mentally

2018-12-05 21:48:22 UTC  

Money is not primary to get happy

2018-12-05 21:48:26 UTC  

But thats a result of other factors

2018-12-05 21:48:27 UTC  

But in this society

2018-12-05 21:48:35 UTC  

It is a means

2018-12-05 21:48:35 UTC  

Money is power.... but it's lonely at the top

2018-12-05 21:48:40 UTC  

So arent the other factors to be considered

2018-12-05 21:48:52 UTC  

Money is a means to stability. From the baseline of stability you can pursue higher goals

2018-12-05 21:48:57 UTC  

^

2018-12-05 21:49:02 UTC  

^

2018-12-05 21:49:03 UTC  

Money is only a tool or an objective societal value

2018-12-05 21:49:27 UTC  

Tools are necessary to hitting goals

2018-12-05 21:49:40 UTC  

Man can barter still without money

2018-12-05 21:49:47 UTC  

BREAK THE TREE WITH A FIST @SantaSoc

2018-12-05 21:49:49 UTC  

money is a store of subjective value

2018-12-05 21:49:51 UTC  

RAAAAAAAAWR

2018-12-05 21:50:02 UTC  

its useful because we are lazy

2018-12-05 21:50:07 UTC  

Money is objective in the context of society

2018-12-05 21:50:13 UTC  
2018-12-05 21:50:15 UTC  

No ill just act like a korean and eat the tree

2018-12-05 21:50:15 UTC  

Pursuing money for its own sake is like pursuing happiness for its own sake. You're not considering the purpose of a thing

2018-12-05 21:50:25 UTC  

No purpose

2018-12-05 21:50:26 UTC  

is it? its value isn't. @Existence is identity

2018-12-05 21:50:28 UTC  

Just a thing

2018-12-05 21:50:48 UTC  

Stuff has no purpose unless you give it purpose