@Rouqen so material gain is the primary need?

Man needs it to survive and attain happiness

no no @Beemann

Not like money

That's what I think their dichotomy was based off of

Material vs immaterial gain

Nope

I think along the lines of the means to obtain the end

To what end?

There was a question if there is only matter @Beemann

And why should this be a primary?

Ah

I said stronk yes

I thought it was about the dichotomy

You asked about how to obtain happiness or why I believe money is a major factor to gaining happiness.

So happiness is the end

Happiness being the end

Happiness is always the end

If you have a goal

And achieve it

You get happiness

But to say money is a primary in obtaining this would mean reality contradicts this fact as people with money have killed themselves or suffered mentally

Money is not primary to get happy

But thats a result of other factors

But in this society

It is a means

Money is power.... but it's lonely at the top

So arent the other factors to be considered

Money is a means to stability. From the baseline of stability you can pursue higher goals

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Money is only a tool or an objective societal value

Tools are necessary to hitting goals

Man can barter still without money

BREAK THE TREE WITH A FIST @SantaSoc

money is a store of subjective value

RAAAAAAAAWR

its useful because we are lazy

Money is objective in the context of society

Yes @Grenade123

No ill just act like a korean and eat the tree