Message from @Rouqen

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2018-12-05 21:47:27 UTC  

Happiness being the end

2018-12-05 21:47:37 UTC  

Happiness is always the end

2018-12-05 21:47:43 UTC  

If you have a goal

2018-12-05 21:47:46 UTC  

And achieve it

2018-12-05 21:47:50 UTC  

You get happiness

2018-12-05 21:48:05 UTC  

But to say money is a primary in obtaining this would mean reality contradicts this fact as people with money have killed themselves or suffered mentally

2018-12-05 21:48:22 UTC  

Money is not primary to get happy

2018-12-05 21:48:26 UTC  

But thats a result of other factors

2018-12-05 21:48:27 UTC  

But in this society

2018-12-05 21:48:35 UTC  

It is a means

2018-12-05 21:48:35 UTC  

Money is power.... but it's lonely at the top

2018-12-05 21:48:40 UTC  

So arent the other factors to be considered

2018-12-05 21:48:52 UTC  

Money is a means to stability. From the baseline of stability you can pursue higher goals

2018-12-05 21:48:57 UTC  

^

2018-12-05 21:49:02 UTC  

^

2018-12-05 21:49:03 UTC  

Money is only a tool or an objective societal value

2018-12-05 21:49:27 UTC  

Tools are necessary to hitting goals

2018-12-05 21:49:40 UTC  

Man can barter still without money

2018-12-05 21:49:47 UTC  

BREAK THE TREE WITH A FIST @SantaSoc

2018-12-05 21:49:49 UTC  

money is a store of subjective value

2018-12-05 21:49:51 UTC  

RAAAAAAAAWR

2018-12-05 21:50:02 UTC  

its useful because we are lazy

2018-12-05 21:50:07 UTC  

Money is objective in the context of society

2018-12-05 21:50:13 UTC  
2018-12-05 21:50:15 UTC  

No ill just act like a korean and eat the tree

2018-12-05 21:50:15 UTC  

Pursuing money for its own sake is like pursuing happiness for its own sake. You're not considering the purpose of a thing

2018-12-05 21:50:25 UTC  

No purpose

2018-12-05 21:50:26 UTC  

is it? its value isn't. @Existence is identity

2018-12-05 21:50:28 UTC  

Just a thing

2018-12-05 21:50:48 UTC  

Stuff has no purpose unless you give it purpose

2018-12-05 21:51:00 UTC  

Because value is subjective

2018-12-05 21:51:05 UTC  

I hate gold

2018-12-05 21:51:08 UTC  

For example

2018-12-05 21:51:17 UTC  

And silver is way better

2018-12-05 21:51:18 UTC  

Not true. You can choose to not use a hammer for its purpose but it still has one

2018-12-05 21:51:39 UTC  

Whether you use it or not is up to you

2018-12-05 21:51:42 UTC  

I mean a value estimated from the standpoint of the best possible to man, i.e., by the criterion of the most rational mind possessing the greatest knowledge, in a given category, in a given period, and in a defined context (nothing can be estimated in an undefined context). For instance, it can be rationally proved that the airplane is objectively of immeasurably greater value to man (to man at his best) than the bicycle—and that the works of Victor Hugo are objectivelyof immeasurably greater value than true-confession magazines. But if a given man’s intellectual potential can barely manage to enjoy true confessions, there is no reason why his meager earnings, the product of his effort, should be spent on books he cannot read—or on subsidizing the airplane industry, if his own transportation needs do not extend beyond the range of a bicycle. (Nor is there any reason why the rest of mankind should be held down to the level of his literary taste, his engineering capacity, and his income. Values are not determined by fiat nor by majority vote.)

2018-12-05 21:51:44 UTC  

I can give a hammer a purpose of chopping trees

2018-12-05 21:51:48 UTC  
2018-12-05 21:51:54 UTC  

not smart